Firstly, Greenland is part of Denmark, not Norway. Not the same thing.
Secondly, I might be wrong but I don’t think the Norwegian government gives the Nobel prizes, an organization based in Norway does
Thirdly, how deranged does someone have to be to threaten war over not getting a peace prize?
The limpest of limp dick energy.
“I’m so fucking pissed that you didn’t give me the Nobel Peace Prize that I’m going to go to war with you to teach you a lesson.”
The S&P 500 is primarily US companies so a global sell off isn’t really going to affect it.
Markets are closed today to celebrate MLK Day. Tomorrow marks a ton of state legislation getting scheduled as well. Gonna suck.
MLK Day is a US holiday. It’s not celebrated anywhere outside the United States of America.
I know you’re replying to a photo of the S&P 500, but I’m equally confused about the statement since I’ve not seen any global market slump.
Oh? Awesome.
Aaaah, I see
I would just be fascinated to know if that letter went through the state department. Did somebody put eyes on that and approve it? Cuz that is amazing.
“Considering your Country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize … I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of Peace, although it will always be predominant, but can now think about what is good and proper for the United States of America,” Trump’s message to Jonas Gahr Støre said. “The World is not secure unless we have Complete and Total Control of Greenland.”
The Norwegian government has no control over how the Nobel Committee awards its prizes. Greenland is a territory of Denmark, not Norway.
I don’t understand how this is “normal.”
Like, I can bring this up to Trump-liking family, genuinely smart people, and it’s just brushed off.
If Biden so much as stuttered in a speech, it was like a national emergency. What do you think would happen if he started mixing up EU countries and impulse texting them over “your Country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize?”
Congress would impeach any other president on the spot. Democrat or Republican.
Even accounting for Fox News, I just don’t understand how this gets a pass.
Cognitive bias affects all classes and education levels. But in my experience conservatives are the most flagrant, “the only moral abortion is my abortion” for example.
Are you familiar with the concept of limerence? It’s an intense infatuation with a person typically rooted in romantic interest. It occurs when you don’t really know a person, and you build an idealized version of them in your mind that likely doesn’t reflect reality. You attribute all sorts of positive traits to them and overlook all their negative traits. You effectively view them through “rose colored glasses”. This is how Trump’s followers look at him. They have this delusional view of him as this strong man here to save them from the mean old leftists. His efforts to seize and wield extraordinary power is viewed favorably, because he is their savior. Everything he does is either awesome or it’s just minimized and ignored. When he does horrible things, it’s just haters looking to knock him down, because he’s just giving the U.S. the tough medicine it needs. There is no way to reason with them, because you can’t reason someone out of something they didn’t reason themselves into in the first place. It’s an emotional thing, in the same way you might be smitten by an attractive woman and build her up in your mind into something that she isn’t. The only way to break the spell is when your fantasy runs into cold, hard reality. In this case, the cold, hard reality will be financial collapse of the U.S. (or worse).
People do this with fictional characters too. TVtropes calls it “Draco in Leather Pants”. People find an evil character attractive and so paint a picture of that character in their head that is nothing like they are in canon, exaggerating any good thing about them (or just making up good things about them) and ignoring or justifying anything bad about them
you can’t reason someone out of something they didn’t reason themselves into
This is the crux. None of it is reasoned.
Yep. This is why you have to code your language to things that are emotionally evocative to them. To some Christians, it’s using the world evil (“this action is evil”). To others it’s using the word weak (“this makes him look really weak”).
Edit: and to be clear, it doesn’t actually need to be logical. You can say something like “his makeup makes him look weak” or “I heard that he sings in a falsetto, that’s super weird”. It doesn’t matter (by definition, it doesn’t need to be logical). What matters is repeatedly associating a negative stimulus with the target position you’re trying to dislodge (or positive stimulus for a position you want held, but humans in America and maybe generally tend to be very profoundly negative averse). The reason these people are hear is because this association game has been played very long and very hard. It is the basis of propaganda.
Or what I did with my ex wife. It’s some powerful shit
By what metric are those people “genuinely smart?”
Script theory does a good job of showing how being able to follow certain social scripts does not suggest that the person does not hold a strong delusion that is unchallenged by those scripts.
You can believe you can fly while not needing to contest that until it becomes an active choice you are forced to make. Some might back off from the belief when put to contest, because they are okay believing whatever feels good despite the dissonance they feel. Some might take action believing they can fly. Both exist comfortable in a shared social group of online “flying truthers.”
People are easily deluded, and usually those delusions cover vaguely bounded and varying social groups, where a single person and an LLM can confirm the person into a noticeable delusion that hasn’t been socialized into the surrounding social scripts.
This is also how you can get a genuinely smart person in math or something, which also holds confident deluded beliefs on some other context.
On the whole: Eco-niche specialization, misplaced confidence, and social affirmation, generally can lead to this.
It’s because nothing Trump is doing scares them as much as:
- Whites becoming a minority
- Gender not being a fundamental way of organizing society
- Random made up things they heard online that they believe to be true
Trump doesn’t look so bad if you believe every US city was burned to the ground 6 years ago and had to be rebuilt using taxes from rural america which were collected by black & latino paramilitary troops controlled by the jews.
Worlds biggest fucking baby. They seriously voted in a fucking baby as president of the USA…
Twice. TWICE.
I can believe once, the second one was almost certainly stolen. There is just too much evidence and litteral coffesions to think otherwise.
Democrats nominated Kamala Harris. There’s a reason she had to drop out of the primaries in 2020 before a single vote was cast. She was quite literally the worst option out of every Democrat option.
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I don’t know man, I currently got a baby and she seems rather reasonable in comparison. Sure she cries when she’s hungry but so far she has only hungered for milk and not a nobel peace price. I’ll let you know if things change.
To be a completely fair comparison, you should give your baby access to nuclear weapons.
Hey man, you can’t hug with nuclear arms!
And they knew him all too well. They saw his baby antics on television long before he started appearing on ballots.
Once would’ve been bad enough. They elected him twice (or allowed him to steal an election, effectively same thing if you accept it and don’t fight it)
The first time was a terrible mistake, the second time was unforgivable. If you don’t learn from your mistakes, there is no helping you. Fight the orange man-baby and his supporters, or there is no future for you.
Not all of us, we feel truly hopeless at the moment and depressed
Waitaminit… a private Norwegian organization decides the manbaby isn’t getting an award, so he decides to take it out on Denmark?
That’s straight up a pussy bitch move.
He’s too stupid to know the difference, plus he’s probably being bribed by some other pedophile racist billionarie in exchange for mineral rights or whatever.
It’s the Estee Lauder heir that is apparently the one pushing Trump on this…
Frankly, it makes more sense than many things he’s done. And it doesn’t make any sense at all.
Guys there’s no way Hitler’s gonna invade the demilitarized Rhineland you guys are just fear mongering.
…Sorry what were we talking about?
In 2016, America put a gun to its head
In 2024, America pulled the trigger
You mean America is doing an extended?
You mean 2015/2016
Europe is going to go for the “nuclear option” of dumping US debt. Prepare for your dollar to suffer inflation, perhaps super inflation. Me? I’m going to WalMart today to buy some staples because I don’t think my dollar will buy nearly as much by the end of next week.
Nothing drastic, just an extra pack of TP, some OTC drugs and probably some dog food. I’m pretty set up for apocalyptic bullshit already. But fellow residents: get ready.
I thought you meant actual staples… like for your stapler, and I was like, “Ok, you do you. Who am I to judge how someone prepars for the apocalypse?”
No we aren’t lol Europe is going to capitulate to keep NATO intact
That might be the one thing that forces congress to act on Trump tbh. They could weather tariffs because it barely affected them. Dropping the bottom out of the dollar will affect them
Wtf is that narrator voice nearby?
As of the time of this comment:
S&P: -4.46 (-0.06%)
DOW: -83.07 (-0.17%)
NASDAQ: -14.61 (-0.06%)That’s not much of a sell off.That’s Friday’s close.
The futures show a hit on open tomorrow:
Oh crap, I forgot it was a holiday. Thank you for the correction
TSX is still showing as up
I think the TSX already has been pricing in a lot of assumed Trump bullshit.
