“A lethal dose of cyanide is around 50–300 milligrams (mg). A 2018 analysis of previous research states that a person would have to eat around 83–500 seeds to develop acute cyanide poisoning.” Medical News Today,citing 2018 Oxford analysis
A redditor also did the math on how many apples that would be:
"Apple seeds can release as much as 0.6 mg of Cyanide per gram of seed.
The average apple seed has a mass of 0.756 grams
The average apple contains 8 seeds
Therefore there are approximately 5.25 grams of apple seeds per apple, yielding a theoretical maximum release of 3.25 mg of cyanide from one apple
The lethal dose of Cyanide is based on body mass and is listed as 1.5 mg/kg.
A human can ingest about 41% of the lethal dose before seeing any side effects.
41% of 1.5 mg/kg = 0.615 mg/kg
The average adult male weighs 81.6466 kg (180 lbs)
Therefore the lethal dose in the average male is 50.213 mg.
50.213/3.15 = ~16 Apples
Therefore the average male can consume ~16 apples without feeling any side effects."
While it is true that this is said to patients, ibuprofen is not enough pain relief. Insertion is often rated as extremely painful, but patients are told it is similar to a menstrual cramp. It was a 10 out of 10 for me, and that was with extra ibuprofen.
Patients’ pain experiences during IUD insertions often do not align with what practitioners perceive that pain to be. One study shows that women rated their highest pain during a procedure at around 65 on a scale of 100, while providers estimated it at around 35—highlighting a deep-rooted disparity between patient experiences and provider perceptions.3
“Women are left in the dark about the reality of this procedure, and that needs to change,” Hart told Verywell. “For many of us, it’s not just mild pinching or cramps, and the first step is to bring this out of the shadows, validate women’s pain, and show them that there are options available to help them manage it.”
I had epidurals for all my childbirths. I’ve had three IUD insertions, only one with ibuprofen. IUD insertion doesn’t hurt much at all either way. Just a moment of pinch & cramp then it’s fine. That has been my subjective experience.
Sure I understand that, especially for your personal experiences. I also recognize this has historically been a huge issue. I work closely with doctors and nurse practitioners in women’s health (L&D, urogynecology, etc.) and they all take it very seriously (they are of mixed genders). I think it depends on the area and expertise of the doctor, but this is an outdated mindset that is (in my experience) quickly becoming obsolete as more voices are raised and research is published.
I’m just against the sweeping generalization of “doctors believe” or “doctors think” and am quick to call it out for clarification. It has been used to support people avoiding healthcare practioners or trusting modern medical science. Saying “my doctor was shitty because they don’t listen to my concerns” is super valid and should be acknowledged, but “doctors don’t listen to women” is not a fair representation.
That is a valid stance to take based on your history. I’ve acknowledged your personal experiences may differ. I was not trying to “cancel out” your viewpoint, the same way I don’t think it would be fair to discount mine.
I’m a bearded white dude who has been doubted by dumbass doctors. It’s why I vastly prefer women doctors, ironically. I can’t fathom what others go through if that’s my experience as a khaki wall.
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And that apples are dangerous.
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“A lethal dose of cyanide is around 50–300 milligrams (mg). A 2018 analysis of previous research states that a person would have to eat around 83–500 seeds to develop acute cyanide poisoning.” Medical News Today, citing 2018 Oxford analysis
A redditor also did the math on how many apples that would be: "Apple seeds can release as much as 0.6 mg of Cyanide per gram of seed.
The average apple seed has a mass of 0.756 grams
The average apple contains 8 seeds
Therefore there are approximately 5.25 grams of apple seeds per apple, yielding a theoretical maximum release of 3.25 mg of cyanide from one apple
The lethal dose of Cyanide is based on body mass and is listed as 1.5 mg/kg.
A human can ingest about 41% of the lethal dose before seeing any side effects.
41% of 1.5 mg/kg = 0.615 mg/kg
The average adult male weighs 81.6466 kg (180 lbs)
Therefore the lethal dose in the average male is 50.213 mg.
50.213/3.15 = ~16 Apples
Therefore the average male can consume ~16 apples without feeling any side effects."
Unless you are a doctor that does not give pain relief for IUD.
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I’m not sure what you mean by this; the cervix is known to have many nerve endings and is accepted medical knowledge.
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Um, yes they do. They tell us to take ibuprofen before the procedure.
While it is true that this is said to patients, ibuprofen is not enough pain relief. Insertion is often rated as extremely painful, but patients are told it is similar to a menstrual cramp. It was a 10 out of 10 for me, and that was with extra ibuprofen.
https://www.verywellhealth.com/iud-insertion-pain-control-cdc-guidance-8737789
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I had epidurals for all my childbirths. I’ve had three IUD insertions, only one with ibuprofen. IUD insertion doesn’t hurt much at all either way. Just a moment of pinch & cramp then it’s fine. That has been my subjective experience.
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Sure I understand that, especially for your personal experiences. I also recognize this has historically been a huge issue. I work closely with doctors and nurse practitioners in women’s health (L&D, urogynecology, etc.) and they all take it very seriously (they are of mixed genders). I think it depends on the area and expertise of the doctor, but this is an outdated mindset that is (in my experience) quickly becoming obsolete as more voices are raised and research is published. I’m just against the sweeping generalization of “doctors believe” or “doctors think” and am quick to call it out for clarification. It has been used to support people avoiding healthcare practioners or trusting modern medical science. Saying “my doctor was shitty because they don’t listen to my concerns” is super valid and should be acknowledged, but “doctors don’t listen to women” is not a fair representation.
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That is a valid stance to take based on your history. I’ve acknowledged your personal experiences may differ. I was not trying to “cancel out” your viewpoint, the same way I don’t think it would be fair to discount mine.
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Yeah, I’m sure that is frustrating.
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I’m a bearded white dude who has been doubted by dumbass doctors. It’s why I vastly prefer women doctors, ironically. I can’t fathom what others go through if that’s my experience as a khaki wall.
Male doctors.
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