Velma

You should really read the article.

TikTokers talking about alpine divorce might not know that the phrase comes from an 1893 short story by the Scottish Canadian writer Robert Barr about an unhappily married couple who spends a weekend away in the Alps. The husband had planned to push his wife off the summit during a hike, but in an O Henry-esque twist, the wife tells him she has framed him for murder before jumping off the ledge herself, right before the police she called show

That said, many alpine divorces do not happen because a man has ill intentions. Maybe, like the Austrian hiker claimed, he thought he was doing the right thing. Maybe he was impatient, or had a woefully uncritical view of the Hemingway-esque macho man archetype that he wanted to embody in nature. Or maybe he had a radically different goal for the hike than his partner, and they failed to touch base beforehand.

You’re ignoring the recent criminal case that brings this up as a topic of conversation which is a very real thing that did happen.

The gender breakdown of avid hikers results in more men than women hiking. About 55-57% of hikers are men.

I’m really not trying to like argue with you or anything, I just think you’re misreading what they meant. There are more men that hike than women statistically.

You’re overlooking that men tend to be attracted to this sort of activity more and may have greater experience.

They didn’t suggest men are innately better hikers. They literally said men are attracted to this hobby in larger numbers and tend to have more experience doing it.

Men historically outnumber women hikers, but the split is relatively close. Like 55-57% of hikers are men with women and non-binary making up the rest.

Was that not clear from the article?

No one throwing a fit about this article has actually read the article

He’s always upvoted many times. It’s disgusting.

Many of the women described having some level of dependence on their partner in nature. They may not have been carrying the right supplies or enough water, or were not familiar with the terrain, making them feel vulnerable.

“It’s such a common thing,” said Julie Ellison, the first female editor-in-chief of Climbing magazine who now works as an outdoor lifestyle photographer. She has heard “so many stories” about men fumbling outdoor dates. “There’s that male ego element to it that’s not necessarily evil or ill-intentioned, but it usually has a negative effect on the partner who’s being left behind.”

Yep! Also touched on in the article.

how often does this actually happen. I remember seeing a news item that mentioned a previous but to call it alpine devorce it would have to be at least 3 figures here or its just nutters the way other nutter activity is.

That’s because your initial comment I replied to said nothing about the title of the article. You were questioning if it even happens often enough to warrant attention.

Some women in the outdoors industry bridle at the gender stereotypes wrapped up in alpine divorce: chiefly, the assumption that a woman cannot take care of herself or has less experience outside than her male partner. “Believe it or not, we can do things that have nothing to do with men,” said Ellison, the Climbing editor. “I really struggle with saying ‘men do this,’ and ‘women do that,’ and those generalizations.”

Blair Braverman is a writer, adventurer and dogsled musher who has competed in the Iditarod and Kobuk 440. (She took 36th place in the 2019 Iditarod, becoming the first Jewish woman to finish the storied, 1,000-mile (1,609km) race.) “Personally, if I were with a man and he wandered away from me on a mountain, I’d be more worried for him than me,” she said. “I think it’s interesting that [the term] assumes that the woman is the one with less capability.”

If there is a feminist spin on alpine divorce, it’s what comes after the women are left behind. When her ex ditched her in Zion, MJ hiked alongside a friendly female stranger and her young son. Naomi helped the woman with vertigo in Arches. “It happened to me many years ago,” one user wrote in the comment section of the viral TikTok clip. “I met 2 girls on the mountain and told them what happened, and we walked down together. They wouldn’t let me go alone.”

The article also goes into this aspect of the conversation.

What’s absurd about someone being thankful they aren’t interested in men?

There’s more social pressure on Reddit that pushes those opinions down. Since there’s less users here and there’s way more men than women, the casual sexism is thriving here. Thanks for calling it out when you see it.

I knew that the misogyny in this place was going to be worse than Reddit simply because of the size of users, but it’s even harder to stick around seeing all the support those types of comments get.

you might be misogynist. Like, them’s the vibes.

His post history will absolutely reveal this. This guy pops up in a lot of conversations to share stories of his evil ex girlfriends and how no woman around him wants anything but expensive bags.

He’s always very supported on this site, too.

So many downvotes from pouty boys hahaha

Pretty sure the guy literally convicted of manslaughter for abandoning his girlfriend to die on a hike is evidence of this happening.

Oh I’ve run into you before.

You don’t think your tales of woe about women are for victimhood status? Lol

There are lots of articles and coverage about women poisoning their husbands before no fault divorce was enacted.

Authors and journalists are allowed to write about whatever they want. You don’t have to read it.

“Tell him to wait for you.”

That’s the sentence where you’re putting the onus on the woman to tell her partner to wait for her.

He should do that already.

Why are you dying on this hill?

Why does it bother you for women to share these stories?