As I’m sure you’ve already memorized the community rules as if it was your moms birthday, I probably need not post it, but here is rule 6 anyway:
- No US Politics.
Please don’t post about current US Politics. If you need to do this, try !politicaldiscussion@lemmy.world or !askusa@discuss.online
I am writing this post in an effort to gather feedback on how the community feels about this rule. In short, keep it as it is, or revise it.
It is my personal belief that the main purpose it serves is to avoid the community from mainly revolving around whatever daft thing the orange lardsack last said or did. And while it serves that purpose well, I think it also inhibits some potentially interesting discussions.
For example, one possible revision could be to allow for questions regarding US politics, but with a requirement that the topic has to be regarding issues 25 years ago (that may or may not be relevant today).
Alternatively, would it be useful/entertaining to occasionally have a “Contemporary US politics question megathread” as a contained outlet?
Please let me hear your thunks. This post will stay stickied for “a while”.
UPDATE: There seems to be overwhelming majority in keeping r6 as is, at minimum. Thank you for your input, and stay classy.
Keep the rule as is. US politics already gets brought up enough already.
100% keen on keeping it. Expanding it to keep all political discussions out would be nice but I know that won’t happen.
Expanding it to keep all political discussions out would be nice
Not even possible. Every post would devolve into a discussion of what’s political.
The rule is currently US politics, where I would like to expand it to other countries because /r/Europe turns into US politics because “it effects Europe”
It seems that the rule seems to work well enough here as is. In addition to the rule, how you enforce it is equally (if not more) important too.
Just narrow the definition of politics to party politics plus named subjects.
For the love of god, keep it as it is!
As a US citizen, keep the rule. As laid out in the text of the rule, there are already communities where questions of that nature can be asked.
Agreed here. People should wonder what normal life like can be in the USA than our politics. Not saying it’s great, but I think it gives better insight than who people voted for.
it make sense on a niche community, but an ask anything community it will just devolve into politics eventually anyways.
!AskUSA@discuss.online exists so I say this rule should stay. I feel bad enough about the deluge of US news our non-yank co users deal with as it is.
but that also doesn’t exactly like “overt politics”… whatever that means
Ah yeah my mistake. Whatever politics comms they link to in the sidebar is what I meant. I want to say askpolitics? Yup.
Yeah keep it. The pedo dictatorship can be discuss in other communities.
I’d like to add this:
If you are a chronic political poster, please think of yourself as someone who crates ads. We currently live in a world where ad creators think they have a god given right to shove ads into every square inch of our existence. And naturally, this is universally hated and people go to great lengths to block as many ads as they can because the ad makers won’t stop and think they have to do this.
That’s you. You’re the ad maker. And that’s how you’re perceived.
I know where I stand politically. I’ve known my entire adult life and I won’t be changing. I also know where to go to update myself on what’s going on politically, both locally and globally. I like having the option of going to it voluntarily and not having it imposed on me involuntarily. I like having the option of turning it off when I want/need to. I have never in my entire existence had a positive or productive or enlightening political discussion with anyone on the internet, ever. I just end up wrestling pigs and I’d rather channel my energy elsewhere. I’d imagine a lot of people agree with that sentiment.
That all being said, keep the rule. There are people who will still post political shit here because they can’t help themselves, regardless of what gets said in this thread.
Keep the rule as it is, and take those kinds of discussions in communities meant for political discussion. There’s already enough of US politics everywhere else.
It’s possible to imagine people having good questions about US politics, e.g. something like “I’m considering running for this public office in this state, what do I need to know about x?” but good luck crafting a rule that allows that and not the worthless noise.
I think it should be expanded into a rule of no politics in general. While the us politcs have the most effect(are most know worldwide) EU poltics and so on should also not be discussed here imo
I don’t see a problem with a bunch of European-specific questions being asked, so I question the need for an expanded rule.
If you broaden the rule, you run at risk of banning or discouraging desirable questions. Stuff about economics or lifestyle. Those are “political” too, after all.
I mean yo run the risk of banning some stuff regardless of if you only ban us politcs or eu politcs. What would be a reason why questions about european politcs would be any different than us politcs. best would be to just ban polutics in general, while keeping lifestyle/economical stuff etc, this would however require some nuance
Edit: to specify i don’t mean to ban European specific questions, just eu-poltics.
Fair, but nuanced rules are difficult to enforce, and somewhat open to interpretation. This leads to people trying to skirt the rules and also good faith posts which break the rules which leads to conflict also.
I think it’s better to keep things as simple as possible, as long as the rule is good enough.
Totally agree. But let’s for example say someone asks a question about something related to economics. I think it would be unfair if Europeans could answer a lot of stuff about politics, while Americans are pretty limited.
Imo It already requires nuance at the moment, the only thing that would change is that all users would be treated the same
Fuck America, that’s my take.
Please keep it and I would even say to enforce it more strictly because I see so many question that I would categorize as US politics that are still allowed.
Please please pleeeease keep it.
Edit: If possible, disallow politics in general.
I think it’s a great rule!
To me, the links to alternate communities are essential. They allow you to set restrictions while still maintaining a helpful atmosphere. Sometimes, people have legitimate, good-faith questions, and don’t know where to ask them. Those links help demonstrate a real concern for the users. Well done!
