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President Donald Trump said Friday during remarks in Florida that the United States would take over Cuba “almost immediately,” suggesting an aircraft carrier could be positioned offshore after the conflict in Iran.
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While the president’s comments appeared partly joking, they followed concrete policy action in the form of broadened sanctions.
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Trump will do anything to distract from the fact that he’s all over the Epstein files.
I hope Europe and Nato start working together with all smaller countries to form a new Nato to protect against American imperialism and American aggression. Cause together, diplomacy is better than force
You hope the impossible. Why would europe give up its imperial benefits for third world solidarity? Anyone that has truly shown third world solidarity were eastern bloc, ussr, etc
Tankie right here. USSR did the same as US did. At least EU didn’t invade any third-world country recently.
No, USSR was miles better than US and its common sense opinion. Tell me how were they same?
Khrushchev and Brezhnev USSR (these were the ones that invaded the most) versus Eisenhower, Kennedy and LBJ (then the comparison gets bad with Nixon)
Who did they invade?
Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Afghanistan, Vietnam (debatable)
Only Afghanistan was an invasion and I oppose it, soviets did wrong there. Hungary and Czechoslovakia wont be called invasion because it was to suppress a west backed coup, and death toll was nothing much, nor the duration. Vietnam certainly no, on the contrary they helped vietcong fight the french, american invaders and win the civil war
The Evil Empire is overextending.
FUCKING WHY
Cuba’s current government won’t let US businesses extract Cuba’s wealth and exploit their citizens.
After 70 years of torture
Ruin Canada’s vacation spot.
Central bank architecture
Someone paid him and flattered him, obviously.
imagine asking this question after witnessing the cold war
They fear communism more than anything.
You can almost hear Hegseth’s glee on the wind as life comes back to his whisky dick at the thought of an opportunity to mass murder more civilians.
That’s Rubio getting his rocks off. Hegseth has less of a dog in the Cuban fight because he never clicked on it in a game of Crusader Kings.
he thinks he will outlive us
In a 3-day special operation?
Read: Two more weeks.
OK grandad.
😂 Do you have any shred of a plan this time? You sure Putin would let you?
Same plan as Iran:
- Send the US military to bomb a bunch of stuff.
- Iran Immediately folds and capitulates to all our demands.
It’s the most bestest plan ever that only the brilliant minds of Trump & Hegseth could have come up with.
Concepts of a plan
Putin can’t do much here. Sanctions on trade are pretty much to highest extent.
You can’t really compare though. Iran is a vast country, and the logistics around re supply is different. Cuba is a morsel.
Been 2 days since he said that.
TACO?
If the US went in with the big stick, Cuba would fall in a week. Russia doesn’t have the heft to support Cuba at this time and a China doesn’t have the tradition and reach. Most Cubans have deep connections with the US and they know the different in quality of life. There’s be very little support from the population towards the regime. Cuba has barely any friends internationally.
That doesn’t make it right. But of all the countries to “take”, Cuba would be the simplest for the US. And Trump might just be mad enough to do it.
If the US went in with the big stick, Cuba would fall in a week
The US has been in with the big stick for 50+ years against Cuba and they’ve resisted not just fine but with a higher life expectancy than the US. They just haven’t invaded militarily so far because they expect greater internal and international support for the Cuban government as a result, so their strategy is to enforce hunger through sanctions. From the US office of the historian:
"Salient considerations respecting the life of the present Government of Cuba are:
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The majority of Cubans support Castro (the lowest estimate I have seen is 50 percent).
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There is no effective political opposition.
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Fidel Castro and other members of the Cuban Government espouse or condone communist influence.
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Communist influence is pervading the Government and the body politic at an amazingly fast rate.
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Militant opposition to Castro from without Cuba would only serve his and the communist cause.
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The only foreseeable means of alienating internal support is through disenchantment and disaffection based on economic dissatisfaction and hardship.
If the above are accepted or cannot be successfully countered, it follows that every possible means should be undertaken promptly to weaken the economic life of Cuba. If such a policy is adopted, it should be the result of a positive decision which would call forth a line of action which, while as adroit and inconspicuous as possible, makes the greatest inroads in denying money and supplies to Cuba, to decrease monetary and real wages, to bring about hunger, desperation and overthrow of government."
Most Cubans have deep connections with the US and they know the different in quality of life
And most Cubans are aware that the reason is the economic embargo, and that at least they can afford rent and healthcare unlike yanks.
There’s be very little support from the population towards the regime
You’re absolutely making that up.
Cubans are better educated than Americans. They know why they kicked the American mobs out of Cuba.
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I honestly don’t know why they went Iran instead of Cuba if they wanted to wave their big dick around.
Completely agree. Iran of all places - I genuinely think he believed he could somehow force a better deal than Obama. Talk about not understanding the regime.
I’ve seen reports that Trump was going to go for Greenland and his advisors shifted his attention to Iran instead. There was also that time Trump leaked Macron’s message where Macron said he’d support Trump with Iran if he backed off Greenland.
You are vastly underestimating cuban peoples commitment to the revolution (they on avg have better QOL than an avg american). Calling it regime you are manufacturing consent for invasion but again you are western british chauvinist so this is expected.
When was the last time you visited cuba / talked to their people directly?
I went around 2018ish, and your take doesn’t track. You’re right, Russia doesn’t have the heft to support Cuba – but they haven’t had the heft to support Cuba for decades. Most Cubans in their 40s that I met, looked back at the days of a stronger Russia as an ideal time period, where they had more goods available – they literally long for the good old days when Communism was bigger on the world stage. They clearly associate/blame the USA’s actions for causing unnecessary famines and issues. Why on earth would you think people would be favorable to a foreign nation that is literally enacting economic warfare to starve the population?? “Thank you for the boot, may I have another?” What??
One of Cuba’s main ‘exports’, are doctors/medical staff for disasters facing other countries. Becoming a doctor in Cuba is basically free of charge, but you gotta work for the govt for a few years after you graduate – as a low paid, outsourced worker as part of these relief teams. Cuba’s govt charges western-ish rates for assistance, but pays those docs a lot less, pocketing the margin for funding govt activities / programs, such as their medical programs. Practically any country that has had a major natural disaster, has gotten assistance from Cuba in this way, because of how they’ve structured the program – so I reckon most of those countries would be friendly to Cuba. “Big” western nations aren’t the only ‘friends’ Cuba can have. Heck, there’ve been articles from numerous news sources even just recently, noting that increased American aggression on this front is impacting health services in various other countries.
America has a lopsided, bully-oriented, military approach at present. They spend an absolutely absurd amount on their military – hell, they could probably blow up most of the UKs government if they wanted to, which is why your politicians are being such pussies when it comes to the US going rogue and openly boasting about committing war crimes. They have the operational capacity to attack/destroy most other governments. It’s not clear they have the capability to occupy and control additional land / regions though, as evidenced by their fumblings in the middle east in recent past, and in that they didn’t stick around in Venezuela (they didn’t even topple that regime, just abducted the dictator at the top). Having soft power / the support of the people, is an essential component to that sort of thing – and seeing as America’s recent actions are pissing off / alienating even Western powers, I see no reason why anyone would think they’d have much ‘success’ in occupying foreign lands. They’d meet active resistance, just like their attempts to setup in Iraq/Afghanistan – likely to a much larger degree even.
With Maduro and the first Iran bombings they worked because there was the element of surprise.
If the Cubans have any braincells they will be prepared.
They’ve been under threat for a long time. I’m sure they’re prepared.
They don’t have much to prepare. Can’t prepare much without power, let alone lights. Night-vision capable forces would have a field day.
Sure, his latest war is not going to plan. There are plenty of unknowns in Venezuela and the Cubans will not tolerate US imperialism.
Will he block the Gulf of Mexico?
