• Etterra@discuss.online
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    3 days ago

    It’s nice to have a governor in my State that’s actually good at his job and not grifting the taxpayers…

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      that money (if it’s paid out at all) will go to businesses who already passed all the cost of tariffs onto consumers, and taxpayers would cover this if it’s paid back so businesses are fleecing americans twice for free

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          trump is just a proxy for the business council, same as every president back through to eisenhower and beyond.

          they knew back at the start that the cost of tariffs would be pushed onto consumers, and that eventually they would argue for refunds (which again, are paid for by consumers), all of this is done specifically to stress the system trying to trigger an economic crash…as that’s when american capitalists make their biggest gains, buying up distressed assets at a massive discount.

          we have done this cycle dozens of times over by now

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            trump is just a proxy for the business council

            There’s significant gulfs between different business leaders’ political views and agendas.

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          3 days ago

          So? I don’t know who invented money, but I know a lot of people that take advantage of it

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    4 days ago

    Noticed that he wrote it so someone with a third grade reading comprehension level wouldn’t have a problem.

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      You can’t sue the federal government unless they give you explicit permission to. They have sovereign immunity except when they intentionally waive that immunity, such as with the Federal Tort Claims Act. You can challenge the constitutionality of a law or policy, fight to have it overturned, but you cannot seek repayment for damages caused by that law or policy without meeting the conditions under which the government has said you can.

      The FTCA is the primary mechanism to sue the fed and the allowances of it are pretty narrow. Tariffs, even illegal ones, would likely fall under the discretionary function exception, which would mean that you couldn’t sue. But even if it didn’t fall under that exception, in order to sue, you must first submit an FTCA claim for repayment of damages to the goverment and wait for their response. Claims must be made within 2 years of the damages and they have 6 months to respond. Only once actually denied can you actually sue, and it must be within 6 months of their response. And then you have to materially prove damages directly caused by the federal government, specifically.

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    4 days ago

    And the saber rattling gets even louder. Maybe one day they’ll think about unsheathing them.

    Though that will not be today.

    [set message to repeat 1x/day]

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      4 days ago

      A very good question.

      If, somehow, this actually becomes a real lawsuit, and somehow actually results in a real judgement, and somehow the regime actually pays the judgement rather than just ignoring it … watch this money just end up in the state’s budget, with none of it going to the people who were actually illegally overcharged for everything. (And then the state spends most of it on buying fancy new guns and surveillance tech for the state police. Chrome-plated missile launchers for the state troopers!)

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      Legally speaking, weren’t the tariffs paid by companies that import stuff into the US? (Sure, they passed on those costs to consumers, but I don’t think that would matter in court.)

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        Maybe? I’ve seen lot of people get tariff bills or charges. So whoever is paying, it isn’t the state.

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    4 days ago

    Ooooo, more political theater by the controlled opposition to deceive the proles and perpetuate the illusion of choice in order to prop up the regime of liberal-fascist collaboration.

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      Yes because some Dems are bad therefore all are equally bad, .ml and having the minds of children go hand in hand. Having this many stupid people in the country is so depressing.

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        yeah its like I understand the dramatic stuff to go hand in hand with the real lawsuits especially given trumps ways.

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        the pritzker family didn’t become billionaires by caring about the people of Illinois

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    He’s ok but he’s still a billionaire and cousins with Epstein pedofile scum. I don’t think you can be a decent person and be a billionaire

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        Their whole point was that you cannot be a billionaire without being a criminal yourself.

        Ifsofacto, billionaires cannot be potential allies because that level of wealth hoarding is inemical to the interests of the many.

        When we say “eat the rich”, we dont mean some of them.

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      4 days ago

      We are like 12 hrs into this. I am happy to see there’s already numbers drawn up as if they’ve been planning for this. I’m sure this won’t be the last we hear

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        Judging by the responses we’ve seen to Donald on everything else, I am absolutely sure it’s the last we hear on it. Dems love sending sternly-worded letters and then pretending they did their job.