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    Also keep in mind: trans women are toys in prison. They want to keep them in longer, they give them sex offender charges for resisting (the trans sexual predator claim comes from this partly, other than that is that many trans women turn to prostitution to survive, which is a sex offence)

    On top of that, BOP policy is to cut off hormones and do conversion torture. So they toss you in a cell to be raped like a woman, while trying to torture you into not being one.

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    Its my fault for coming to lemmy hoping for some mindless escapism. I get gut punched each time I open my feed. My understanding of the world shows me a bleaker, more disgusting image every time. I appreciate you sharing this and opening my eyes, thanks.

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    when you see people argue that trans women should be in men’s prisons, understand that this is what they argue in favor of.

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    This article is a bit tough to understand. What is the expected logic of such practices? I know its a horrific phenomenon all-around, but what was even the initial idea of how this could possibly be a net good for any entity involved?

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    2017 study by the Sylvia Rivera Law Project found that 75% of trans women respondents in New York state prisons were subjected to sexual violence by a correctional officer

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      No. The US is very much a first world country. It’s literally the definition. It is the US.

      And this is what a capitalist country does. This is what first world countries look like.

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        Nah. The Scandinavian countries are what I consider true first world.

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          Help us out: what do you think “First World,” “Second World,” and “Third World” actually mean? The terms referred to cold war political alignment: the U.S.-led bloc, the Soviet-led bloc, and countries aligned with neither. It was not a tidy ranking from rich and civilized to poor and backward.

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            Yes those were the original definitions but colloquial usage has shifted from the original meaning. Although these days the preferred terminology is developed/developing/under developed.

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              under developed is only preferred in academic circles, particularly economics. most other places refer to such places as “over-exploited”

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      I’m convinced they put something in the water and/or air and/or food to make some of us greedy self centered seething pieces of shit. Unfortunately those are the people in power.

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        i would say there’s something to be said for the broad impacts idustrialized food has on the gut biome, and the gut biome’s influence on persona. that’s more of a critique of capitalistic tendancies though than a direct endorsement of any hypothesis that some central cabal intentionally poisons us.

        that said, if you told me nestle, nabisco, monsanto, and unilever do intentionally poison us to keep us fighting and themselves on top, i’d endorse that notion, too, and have put at least some thought into the possibility

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      our prisons, mental institutions, and boarding schools are all reflective of the European patriarchal colonial system that composes the framework of the foundation of the united states. just as Phoenicia made a colony so huge it supplanted Phoenicia’s empire in Carthage, so too has America shifted the center of the eurocentric settler colonial project. you ask why America is why it is, the answer is because Europeans were so sure of the righteousness and superiority of their civilizations that they traveled to this continent and raped, killed, and enslaved the societies they found here.

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        It’s Europe’s fault that transgender persons are assigned to rapey cellmates in us prisons? That is the dumbest fucking shit I have ever read, but I guess in a weird way you did answer my question.

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          Not present day Europe’s, but we have to understand what the outcomes and origins of settler colonialism are in order to understand how to resist it. American Exceptionalism is rooted in the notion the white Europeans are superior to Black Africans, indigenous Americans, and Asian and Pacific Islander people. There is an America today because in the 1500-1700s the European monarchies under the protocapitalist framework of mercantilism sought to own the entire world, including the inhabitants therein. America’s founding fathers were Europeans influenced by the enlightenment movement, and the country they built was reflective of the Eurosupremacism of the time, which quickly gave way to scientific racism formulated by anglosphere thinkers to justify the industrialized rape of Africa in the 1800s.

          All I’m saying is that to resist these things we have to look at the history of how they started and then resist the tendencies that brought them about

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            origins of settler colonialism

            American Exceptionalism

            white Europeans are superior

            European monarchies under the protocapitalist framework of mercantilism

            reflective of the Eurosupremacism of the time

            scientific racism formulated by anglosphere thinkers to justify the industrialized rape of Africa

            This is what it sounds like when someone from a middle class background does meth.

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        That is some primary grade deflection. Imagine being so far up the ass of their own country that they can’t even admit that their country has problems of its own that needs fixing.

        All this fucking shit happens in the US, and not to the same extent in most European countries, so much for your precious “it’s all Europe’s fault” theory.

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          i have not said that the US does not problems. far from it. I even said it is a coagulation of all the things that make States bad and wrong. what needs to happen is the power of the authority of the United States must be dissolved so that the process of communal healing can actually begin. the settler colonial tendencies that america promotes in the world will continue to go on unabated, just as they have for the last 6000 years, unless we resist these tendencies together

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            it is a coagulation of all the things

            You could have used the word “combination” or “mix” or any other common word that everyone understands, but you chose for some reason to use “coagulation”.

            Now I’m not saying I don’t know what my blood does when it gets exposed to air, I’m saying why are you using 5 dollar words to sound smarter than you are?

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              coagulate because American power is a dangerous blood clot that will give the world a stroke death if it isn’t dissolved

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                Your replies are so on point I’m saving this comment thread. This also really opened my eyes to the narrow mindedness of others. Sometimes broader historical knowledge is necessary to understand present day conditions.

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                  well i’m glad. i do my best to maintain an empathetic approach while also speaking the truth into the world my government wants to kill. this thread has been more mentally taxing than i would have preferred, but i keep reminding myself that it still connected with at least a few people even if all the comments are saying i’m in denial about that very same government’s core nature and trying to deflect blame from it.

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              Eh, actually fits better, though I don’t think the guy you’re replying to intended it that way.

              America was founded by the crazies that weren’t allowed to be as repressive as they wanted to be in Europe.

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        Nah, Europe, Mexico and Canada all had the same influence but managed to avoid the prison/slavery complex with profit driven sexual torture, there’s probably something else at work in the US

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          this is a form of American Exceptionalism that ignores that Mexico and Canada both have legacies of prison/slavery complexes with profit driven sexual torture. Mexican people have reduced (perhaps even eliminated, i’m not an expert on current Mexican affairs) the presence of this influence through generations of education, healing, and resistance to imperialist tendencies coming into mesoamerica to extract everything of value. In Canada the scars of the provincial school system are still felt today with the last residential school having closed in 1997, 29 years ago. There are 34 year olds alive today who remember first hand the sexual violence they experienced at the hands of Canadian sponsored torture facilities. Canadian police continue the practice of driving indigenous women far away from the warmth of their homes, forcing them to walk through the cold, condemning them to death.

          There is nothing special that makes America more wrong than any other State. it is merely a coagulation of the worst tendencies present in all states concentrated by the capitalist necessity to extract everything of value from the land and people. The solution is for the people of the world, everywhere they are, to block the barricades until Sudan, Congo, Ukraine, Palestine, the Dakotas, and everywhere else the imperial tendencies of the global north torture, lynch, and enslave the people are free. America’s torture is resistable just like the tortures conducted in Mexico and Canada.

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          It’s just the place where those forces were concentrated the strongest. It could have happened anywhere but it happened in the USA.

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          Just Americans trying to cope with their shithole the only way they know how: blame it on someone or some place else.

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            Places do not torture, enslave, and rape. People do. I am not interested in absolving or shifting blame, but rather in deconstructing the fascist ideologies used to justify these behaviors. In the case of American Exceptionalism the notion is that white straight cisgender males are superior to all other people, and then violently enforcing that norm.

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    That was one of the hardest reads for such a relatively short article with not too many unfamiliar words. Fucking hell. Every American should read it.

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    wait until folks comprehend who has the highest incarcerated population on this planet.

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      I always like to point out that it’s just the highest reported incarcerated population on the planet. There’s countries way bigger than America that don’t have as much freedom of information, like we’re reading right now.

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    That’s insane. I don’t have it in me right now to look further into this. I’m sure there are plenty of testimonies and accounts that are terrible and difficult to read. I just can’t. The spectre of that being part of the deal for our incarcerated sisters makes me fear prison even more.