• stoy@lemmy.zip
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      21 days ago

      Nope, the EU population is larger than the US, where we are lacking is in our military power.

      And are ramping up, faster than I would have believed possible 5 years ago.

      • Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        20 days ago

        It’s almost like people have forgotten history. Europe isn’t a newcomer, I just hope it won’t go to our heads, and that’s where being 27 countries together makes sense for me so hopefully only “good” things will come out of it all.

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        13 days ago

        Then you deserve to feel Trump’s fury hit Europe. If you’re so full of yourselves regarding your power, let’s hope you don’t end up regretting it.

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          21 days ago

          Only out of necessity, Russia has shown that they are done playing the diplomatic game (though they have been playing it quite badly), the US has fully shat it’s pants and is rolling around in it and China has the carving knife ready for when Russia colapses, if Europe is to survive we need to federalize.

          At an absolute minimum, we need to build a unified military under one leadership throughout the EU, military personal from the south must be expected to defend Europe in the north, and vice versa.

          I don’t see this as being right-wing, I see it as it being a reality we need to face.

          I’ll even share a detail about my general political views, out of all ideologies, I strongly believe that Social Democracy is the best, as it combined a strong government with a regulated free market.

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            13 days ago

            Friend, you need to understand: USA could turn off your F-35.

            Simply, you aren’t prepared for USA turning around.

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              13 days ago

              No they can’t.

              Sweden doesn’t have F-35’s.

              Neither does France.

              Europe as a whole also have plenty of Eurofighters.

              The US hasn’t really fought any nation with comparable tech and infrastructure since WWII.

              I don’t think they’ll have an easy time doing that.

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            20 days ago

            I’ll even share a detail about my general political views, out of all ideologies, I strongly believe that Social Democracy is the best

            Have you lived in Europe for the past 20 years? European “Social” “Democracy” has led only to the destruction of welfare state, worker rights, increasing of retirement age, and collapse of salaries, and whoever tries to deviate from that by being further left (Syriza, Podemos, LFI) gets couped out of power, whereas far right governments rule without issues in half of the continent

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              20 days ago

              I am living in Sweden, I have done so for the last 38 year after being born.

              I have witnessed the all of that.

              I stand by what I said, including the part of regulated free markets which you didn’t bring up.

              I absolutely disagree with how Socialdemokraterna moved away from the ideology of Social democracy.

              However, this does not change my views of the ideology, only the politicians who has failed it.

              Social democracy requires strong leaders who can withstand trends pulling in either direction.

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                20 days ago

                “I’ve seen with my own eyes social democracy failing simultaneously everywhere in Europe and ruined millions of lives. However, I still support it”.

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                  20 days ago

                  No, I have not seen social democracy failing, I have seen politicians failing to uphold social democracy.

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                    13 days ago

                    That’s the problem: they only need to buy your politicians with many Swedish kronas.

                    Do you believe a so fragile system is right?

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          21 days ago

          Well, you kinda need military power, even if you don’t use it, you can’t expect countries to not attack you and just be diplomatic. Also, don’t accuse people of being [insert here ideology], it’s just childish and not better than attacking them

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        20 days ago

        At this point, I’m so miserable, that I agree, and accept our new Chinese overlords. We lost the fight for humanity long ago, I at least want to live a bit.