• stermy4u@lemmy.worldBanned from communityOP
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    8 days ago

    I always forget Erin Brockovich is a real person and not just a character played by Julia Roberts

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    8 days ago

    The site explicitly mentions “AI data centers”, but how do you differentiate AI data centers from… non-AI data centers I guess?

    I understand the anti-AI sentiment and environmental issues, etc. but I also think a lot of non-technical people don’t realise that literally everything they do online uses a data center.

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        4 days ago

        The post is about data centers though.

        No serious business is hosting an internet accessible serve in their office.

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            10 hours ago

            Your ISP likely has multiple datacenters. And even if they don’t, their provider almost certainly does. Your DNS ultimately comes from a datacenter. Your machines clock is likely syncing with a NIST that is, once again, hosted in a datacenter.

            A datacenter isn’t some magical thing that only a few companies have, if you’re dealing with a large anything that hosts its own or others data, they more than likely have a datacenter.

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              8 hours ago

              Not all those companies have their own data centers, but plenty of them would rent space in data centers. You can rent anything from individual servers owned by the data center (“dedicated servers”, like what you can get from Hetzner), to space in a shared rack, to an entire 42U rack dedicated to you, to an entire cage (or several cages).

              (a cage is just a part of the data center that’s sectioned off in a locked metal mesh cage so only one customer can access it, while still allowing plenty of airflow to and from the servers)

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      6 days ago

      It also says the goal isn’t to track every data center out of the 4000 operating in the US, just the ones the public is concerned about, yet there are over 8000 user submissions shown.
      This erodes my confidence in the data, as there appear to be no checks or filters.

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        6 days ago

        There’s some dots on the map in places where I know for sure that there’s no data center. I think people have submitted addresses of some tech company headquarters for example.

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      8 days ago

      Assuming the specs and blueprints are publicly available, an AI data center will look different on the inside compared to a traditional data center. The former will have more GPU racks and probably higher power requirements.

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        8 days ago

        This, but it may also be apparent even without detailed information. The key difference is an absurd level of power density. So compare footprint to power. Power can be estimated easiest based on backup generators as their smokestacks are almost always visible. The last variable is whatever generator size from CAT, Cummins etc is the most cost effective, or that was still somehow left in a warehouse to actually buy.

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          7 days ago

          Also if they’re running the “backup” generators even when the power grid isn’t having any issues…

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      7 days ago

      AI datacenters outscale every other kind of data center by an extremely large margin. Most data centers are smaller than a Costco.

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        6 days ago

        Most new builds by the larger companies are pretty big though, even if they’re not dedicated to AI.

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    8 days ago

    You know, Elon Musk was dumping the same shit the movie was about in Texas recently!? Soon Teflon somewhere else like Dupont again