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On Monday, the US Supreme Court decided in Trump v. Slaughter that the US Federal Trade Commission (“FTC”) may not be independent anymore. Since 2000, the EU has relied on the “independent” FTC as the enforcer of EU-US deals on personal data. According to EU treaty law, such oversight must be independent. In the current EU-US deal, the European Commission relies on the independent FTC 259 (!) times.
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Shits just getting started. This is just going to be one of many dominoes from this ruling to the ultimate demise of the USA, even if they do get rid of Trump.
This + Citizens United + President can’t be charged for official acts = game over.
The presidency is no longer trust worthy, and now every US agency is no longer trust worthy.
FDA: The drug isn’t safe
Trump: Approve it
FDA: The drug isn’t safe
Trump: You’re fired
FDA: The drug is the BEST DRUG WE’VE EVER SEEN!
Every single agency.
Germany needed the world to fix.
Europe can not just let this happen.
100%=Game Over
Just one more reason for Europe to abandon American tech.
Yes stop buying our shit holy fuck
Jesus fucking Christ STOP
That would help.with so many things if it was abrupt
Enjoying my EU hosted services, and looking forward to my next-gen cloud office software from the EU, and I’m already bypassing US retail brands for most of my electronics.
There was a time that saying “buy American” wasn’t a curse or a threat.
My eu hosted services pass through us servers. Every single one is like this. Probably because your countries are spying on Americans too, and you’re all in cahoots together.
The day that the regular people of Europe and America, realize our leaders are all mutually fucking us together and hopping over to an island to fuck kids while laughing at us will be a fucking great day.
Citations needed for the first paragraph. Hard agree, for the second.
Cloudflare mate.
It’s so fucking stupid they keep saying they will abandon our tech AND YET…
Less talky more doey guys. We are all waiting!
What’s transferred is transferred. The amount of available data is massive. Thats not even considering complacency going forward.
Any day?? Year? Decade!!! Actions speak louder than words and actions prove Europe leaders want this.
No data should be exchanged with the US, unless memes taking the piss out of the US are considered data, then yes sure, lots.
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Important read:
How Hitler Dismantled a Democracy in 53 Days - “He used the constitution to shatter the constitution.”
Wow, a news site that actually links primary sources like the SCOTUS decision. 10/10 Absolute amaze!
NOYB (non of your business) is great! Not so much a primary news site, but an Austrian NGO that focuses on data privacy in the EU. They have taken some of the biggest cases related to EU:US data transfers against the EU.
Ah, that makes more sense. I was suspicious of a news site being so good. The search for good news source continues…
Pretty sure it’ll make no difference. The agreements were already constantly being broken, and the EU only occassionally bothered doing anything about it. With the current European Comission being made up entirely of American assets, I suspect we’ll see no action on this whatsoever.
Frankly, I didn’t even know about this in the first place.
The title is wrong. SCOTUS didn’t make anything happen … the question is what EU regulators will do, and my guess is they won’t do a damn thing. But you never know!
It’s European fault for relaying on a single thing
trump wants palantir to handle all the data, so they cant profile “dissidents against right wing governments”
This may delay the launch of windows 12 by a few days, possibly a week. But everyone should remain calm, nothing will fundamentally change.
Not sure whether this is an oversight or an intentional breach of the treaty. Hard to tell when one side acts in bad faith.
SCC, BCR, PCLOB - would be nice if they explained the acronyms.
I’m not sure. Technically, yes, but there have been a number of EU treaties like that before that got all chopped by the courts, and the EU just went and found other lame excuses to try the same shit again.
So, theoretically, the EU has to rip that treaty to shreds, and have no real chance to get another attempt because all legal pathways have now been burned.
Please stop calling seflhosting “digital sovereignty”. It’s just a marketing buzzword, but basically there is nothing there except “I will host it myself”.
I thought the idea of digital sovereignty means you host services in the same legal domain or country, not that you literally “self host” things. For example, nobody is calling that the EU organization should self-host anything, only that they would use European cloud services.
Or does “host it myself” actually mean that someone else would host it for you? I don’t believe that’s the common way to understand it.
US-based software does have hosting physically in EU, which makes it in the same legal domain, but US has the CLOUD Act, where US can force their companies, even if abroad, to pull data to US. So, being simply in the same legal domain or country does not make it sovereign. You actually need your own hardware and the full software stack where there is no foregin ownership to actually be sovereign.
And if you just scale up from individual persons to nations/blocks, whats the difference between “I will not use Google Drive, I will selfhost Nextcloud” and “EU will not use Google Drive, it will selfhost Nextcloud”.
Me in this case is just not a person, but a country/political entity. EU is selfhosting instead of using US-provided hosting.
I prefer calling it “digital anarchy”, especially if you’re going so far as setting up your own Meshtastic node.
The joke of a “privacy framework” has now a excuse less.
I wouldn’t hold my breath that anything changes, though
