Ban was for 7 days, and Hasan appealed it to 3 days after taking a quiz.
In the meantime, he streamed on YouTube for the first time in like 7 years, had 140k viewers at the peak, and made a TON of money from super chats, all while being able to stream his regular news coverage AND attend the ICE Out of LA protest in solidarity.
Israel dick riders really got him good.
The only times Hasan has been banned from Twitch was for insulting racist white people. And they say he’s doing hate speech. Pathetic.
My wife was watching that stream and just in shock. He made something like 7 million dollars *$18,000 *from superchats on his first(?) YouTube stream. He started it bashing the platform and by the end he was talking about his plan for what he’ll be posting/streaming to YouTube in the long term. The temp ban definitely backfired by pushing him to a platform where he immediately got 10x the viewers he’d normally expect
Edit: I had remembered a completely incorrect number for his superchat income
Grifters change what they say according to what’s popular. They can say one thing one week according to the news cycle, then say the exact opposite thing the next.
Assmanmold for instance is a grifter because he’s contradicts his beliefs as he follows what his audience believes the most. Most recent example of this was with Renee Good and Alex Pretti. Assman praised ICE in the former case and said they should do more of what they did to Renee. Then he condemned ICE in the latter case and demanded accountability.
Hasan has stayed true to his beliefs over the past 10-15 years he’s been doing political commentary. He’s believed certain things especially when it wasn’t popular, and suffered the consequences. Good example of this was October 7th when HAMAS bombed that music festival in Israel. Hasan explained the event as blowback of an oppressed nation against the oppressor regime, Israel, that had been committing apartheid and ethnic cleansing for decades. Hasan lost a third of his community as a result of his beliefs on October 7th, but he’s been clawing back a lot of those losses.
Hasan isn’t a grifter. He’s a left winger. And it just so happens that the right wing in America are fucking shit up so hard that the popular response in the American citizenry is to push left.
Grifters change what they say according to what’s popular. They can say one thing one week according to the news cycle, then say the exact opposite thing the next.
That’s not necessarily true. You can be very consistent as a grifters, a la, Ben Shapiro. The thing that’s a makes a grifter that is hypocrisy. They preach something for financial gain, but then use the money for something else. Hasan falls into this camp.
You’re an idiot if you don’t know the difference.
The fact that all his stans have resorted to insulting me right off the bat let’s me know that I am indeed correct
Ben Shapiro is actually losing prominence in contemporary politics, or at least American Republican politics, precisely because he won’t grift further to the right his other contemporaries like Tucker Carlson and Nick Fuentes. Shapiro is seeing more spotlight from the American Liberal media these days because he is consistent in his views, yet Liberals are approaching his positions.
Ben Shapiro is a counter argument to your position.
right off the bat
Oh I didn’t insult you right off the bat. I rejected your position.
Then you showed to the rest of us how much of a dumbass you were, to which I seized the moment.
Ben Shapiro is actually losing prominence in contemporary politics
I genuinely don’t care about the current status of Ben Shapiro. That’s besides the point.
because he won’t grift further to the right his other contemporaries
What the fuck are you even talking about? The term “grift” is not a verb that indicates political leanings. A grifter is someone who engages in acts that swindle people out of their money. The concept has nothing to do with political views. That’s why both Hasan and Ben Shapiro are grifters.
Shapiro is seeing more spotlight from the American Liberal media these days because he is consistent in his views, yet Liberals are approaching his positions.
Do you even know what we’re talking about?
Oh I didn’t insult you right off the bat. I rejected your position.
Did you? You just made up a premise and went on a rant about it before calling me an idiot at the end.
A grifter doesn’t need to flip flop on their views in order to grift. A grifter can have a consistent position that they preach while they take the money they swindle to the bank. The deception comes from how their words and actions contradict each other. That’s what defines a grifter. Hasan, like Ben Shapiro, falls into this category. What he preaches is consistent, however, what he preaches and how he actually acts are fundamentally at odds at each other. The way he lives his life contradicts everything that he preaches, which can only mean that he’s saying what he is saying in order to swindle people for profit.
Then you showed to the rest of us how much of a dumbass you were, to which I seized the moment.
I’m sure you’re the type of neckbeard who has a whiteboard next to his bed to record all the internet people he’s rekt in online arguments.
I genuinely don’t care about the current status of Ben Shapiro.
Yet you brought him up, probably because you thought it’d help your argument.
Keep coping elsewhere, keyboard warrior libtard. In the meantime, there’s a socialist movement brewing outside. Maybe you should leave your mom’s basement for once, touch grass, and join in. You’ll have a lot more impact than whatever the fuck you’re trying to do on Lemmy.
No, a grifter is a con artist who uses charm, deception, and manipulation to swindle people out of money or possession. Hasan fits this definition down to the letter.
It was people and comments like yours that made me discover, watch and like Hasan.
You are an imbecile for thinking that he is grifting. He is not. He is consistent with his core ideas. You must be one of those morons who think he should be broke because he calls himself a socialist/communist, no? Is that what it is? Because if so, you are so goddamn stupid if you still hold that argument in your hands. You will never defeat billionaires by being poor, dude. We need some people of our own with the same amount of power, do you understand that? I mean, Hasan likely has less than 100 million USD as a net worth, comparing him to Penguinz0’s 46M he has made with all his YouTube videos alone, both very active content creators, but Penguinz0 has way more people watching him everyday, because he attracts normies, Hasan attracts those obsessed with politics, which are more rare and few, especially leftists. Even yet, if he donated it all like you want him to, then how the fuck is he going to spread his core ideas further?
People who want him to self-host, to abandon Twitch because it belongs to Amazon, are also some of the dumbest people I have come across in my god damn life. I can go on and on about why that’d be incredibly unfeasible, incredibly outside Hasan’s or any other content creator’s hands. The amount of money you need to build the infrastructure is immense. If he cannot use AWS, he’d need to use CDN (which hold and behold, also have evil rich people owning the services), which is incredibly expensive to hold the bandwidth of 40,000 regular viewers everyday for 8 hours everyday. Then the marketing or means to gain traffic, it’s an incredibly absurd suggestion, I seriously hope you are not another one of those.
I have never given him a cent, yet I have enjoyed countless hours of his content, learning about how evil the Trump administration is, how evil Israel is, and which products, from popular brands owned by evil people I should avoid and convince my family of 100+ people to do the same.
You complain that he donates money for “PR”, which is also fucking stupid. The amount Hasan has donated, if measured by proportion of his total wealth, is higher than all the other millionaires and billionaires. At this point, if we are constantly surrounded by children like you, nobody is ever going to donate anymore, because people will ALWAYS call it fake. Congratulations, bub. You made donating a much less common practice. It was people like you that convinced rich people to hate us even more than they already do, and pushed them to do us more harm. We could’ve at least made it a little easier if it wasn’t for morons like you. Fuck donating, right? It will never be sincere, it will always be a waste of time and resources you could instead use to further damage the rich.
You criticized someone by saying “you’re literally incapable of producing a coherent, logical response” yet your response to this: “When has Hasan manipulated people?” was “All the time. How can you not see it?” You literally talk and sound like a MAGA, dude. You both use the same style of arguing: substance-less, empty, hollow, repeated NPC one-liners, insults, “do your own research” type of answer. It’s so fucking gross.
I am glad people like you leave these comments, though. They are great opportunities to display how fucking stupid Hasan’s haters are to the silent readers like me. No one does a better job at convincing people to listen to him than stupid morons like you. So, seriously, thank you so much for that. Every idiot you see repeating the “he shocks his dog” bullshit, is not that different from seeing Ethan Klein’s community constantly calling others a “pedophile, pedophile, pedophile” to ruin their lives and careers. You are disgusting and stupid as fuck if you really think talking like that is convincing anybody to like you or your favorite content creator / news anchor / politician / celebrity / ideology. You are only scaring people away, especially when you don’t offer anything convincing or logical, Mr. “All the time. How can you not see it?”
By the way, no one has asked you this, but why don’t you recommend us who to listen to? After all, you claimed this: “I like you unironically think that these 3 shithead grifters are the only role models out there for young men.”
What other content creators are you encouraging us to watch instead? Come on, tell us. It’s going to be so funny to see your own hypocrisy at full display.
It’s amazing how you wrote so much and yet said so little. I read your novel twice looking for a thesis to respond to, but there isn’t one… so I ended up reading a third time, and there’s still nothing. This whole essay of yours is literally nothing more than a collection of ad hom fallacies. I know this fallacy has become a buzzword, but the actual definition of it applies here. It’s literally just name calling me names like a hundred times. I tried to look past the insults to what your point is, but you don’t actually have a point, the insults are the point.
The thing that I don’t understand is that why you even wrote whatever this is in the first place? Not only is it giving me second hand embarrassment, but it also would’ve so much simpler, more mature, and more effective for you to just ask questions in good faith and then have me answer. I would’ve answered you and we could’ve had a discussion. Instead, you choose this and showed that you’re engaging in bad faith for no good reason.
You say Hasan swindles people of their money. How come he donates so much of what he makes then?
You are a shit-lib libtard that has no working brain. Either that, or you’re a troll or bot paid by foreign actors. Either way, your propaganda isn’t working as can be clearly seen in this comment section.
Hasan is a beacon of hope for young men that don’t have many other high profile male role models to look to, in a sea of Andrew Tate’s and Nick Fuentes’s. He believes in an alternative to the destructive system of capitalism that most of the world lives under. He is the answer for progressive politics in at least the US and really the whole world.
As soon as the winds shift his direction, you won’t be calling him out. You’ll be supporting him. And then you’ll be the mindless, grifting minion you hope no one will notice that you are now.
You say Hasan swindles people of their money. How come he donates so much of what he makes then?
Why do billionaires donate money? It’s for PR.
You are a shit-lib libtard that has no working brain. Either that, or you’re a troll or bot paid by foreign actors. Either way, your propaganda isn’t working as can be clearly seen in this comment section.
I like how you’re so mentally inept that you’re literally incapable of producing a coherent, logical response. I guess your brain collapsed at the thought of doing something like that and this verbal vomit of a response is what it produced instead.
Hasan is a beacon of hope for young men that don’t have many other high profile male role models to look to, in a sea of Andrew Tate’s and Nick Fuentes’s.
I like you unironically think that these 3 shithead grifters are the only role models out there for young men. I was just trying to insult you before, but you might actually be mentally inept.
He is the answer for progressive politics in at least the US and really the whole world.
He’s not going to let you tap lil bro
As soon as the winds shift his direction, you won’t be calling him out. You’ll be supporting him. And then you’ll be the mindless, grifting minion you hope no one will notice that you are now.
Please leave me out of your weird fanfics. I’m merely calling out grifters as they for what they are. If that ruffled your feathers then that’s on you.
Feel free to drop evidence that supports your claims. Shouldn’t be hard to find since you say he does this quite regularly. Almost all of Hasan’s life is on camera, so again you should have plenty of clips.
Hasan wears nothing but luxury clothes and Jewelry. We’re not talking about normal brands that are a bit expensive because they’re good quality, no, we’re talking about the ultra high end designer brands that create artificial scarcity to inflate prices to a comical degree in order to sell the idea of exclusivity. He constantly brags about it on camera too. For example, here’s him talking about a buying $7000 Gucci suit on a whim
Hasan also launched his own clothing brand that he sells at exuberant prices. His gimmick is that the clothes are union made domestically, which he uses to justify the ridiculously high prices. He also runs a lot promotions and sales events, which means that he’s not selling his merch at the minimum necessary to keep the operation going in order to give his customers the best deal. Instead, he’s selling at a very juicy profit.
There’s many more examples, but you get the idea.
Unlike most people, my criticism of him is actually very specific. I don’t think he’s a grifter his host of vile views or his provocative ragebait content or even him making a lot of money doing what he does. No, the grifting comes specifically from the stark contrast of how he lives his life vs what he preaches to people. Because that deception is precisely what makes a grifter just that.
A lot of his fans try to dismiss this criticism by saying “oh but he has to participate in society”, but nobody is saying that he shouldn’t. I am not one of those people who thinks that he’s a hypocrite for not living in abject poverty. It’s completely reasonable anybody, including socialists, to seek a comfortable life in a capitalist society. However, there is a very big difference between participating in society and living in luxury. The former is something you have to do, but the latter is a conscious and unnecessary choice. Which again, would’ve been fine if he was honest with his audience… but he isn’t.
Hasan’s career consists of him selling people criticisms of capitalism as well as the idea of socialism on camera, being the epitome of a neoliberal capitalist outside of it. He wear crazy expensive designer clothes, he buys mansions, he buys sports cars, he companies that sell products for a high profit, and the list goes on and on. He directly benefits from, enables, and defends capitalism with his actions. Yet he’s preaching to people that this system is very bad, that materialism is killing our planet, that the profit model is the source of evil, that people should live from ability to need, that the rich are the source of society’s problem because they only care about themselves… he’s literally everything that he criticizes. This lucrative hypocrisy is what makes him a grifter.
When you really think about it, what makes him different from someone like Ben Shapiro? His left wing views? Okay, but what about in the abstract? If you remove the type of content they pump out, how are these two any different in their grifting? They’re both selling people bullshit ideas that they don’t believe in in order to make a profit.
Hasan buying a Porsche Taycan, a house in LA, and high line clothing doesn’t mean he’s a grifter. Hell, it doesn’t even contradict his being a socialist.
Hasan gets his money from his fans. He doesn’t own stocks. He isn’t invested in real estate or any other industry aside from the one he obviously gets most of his funding from: political commentary. He doesn’t rug pull his followers by introducing cryptocurrency or NFTs, which many if not most grifters have done, including Trump. Hasan doesn’t acquire capital in any way a “normal” capitalist would. His getting funding from his fans actually allows him to stay independent as a political commentator and be free from corporate main stream media and the US State Department pushing American-first propaganda. There are many benefits to being funded by his fans. He just has so many fans that people mistake that for his being a millionaire. He is, but being a millionaire in West Hollywood doesn’t mean he lives an extravagant life. If you want to criticize him for that, then criticize all of West Hollywood and California in general for making housjng that expensive. You choosing not to shows your bias.
Hasan likes cars. Hasan likes clothes, so much so that he started his own clothing company that just so happens to be union owned and operated. You say that his clothing brand is expensive because they want to run it for a profit. I’m sorry, but what the Union does and doesn’t do is none of your concern BECAUSE THEY STILL OPERATE IN A CAPITALIST HELLHOLE OF A COUNTRY. If Ideologie were to operate in a society like China, perhaps they would be able to drive down prices while at the same time paying a living wage to their workers. You’re ignoring the cost of living in California, and instead of wanting to fix that, you’re belief is that people should just move away or stop what they’re trying to do although. Painful mindset. Also, Hasan bought the LA house at that price because West Hollywood is really that expensive. And you conveniently failed to mention that Hasan bought such a big house because he wanted his family to move in with him so he could provide them a home and support them in general, like they did for him. You failing to mention these things shows your bias.
Hasan has these things, but that doesn’t mean he isn’t still a socialist. People arguing that Hasan should walk the talk and live what he believes fail to understand 2 things:
living like a socialist in the US is a quick strategy to poverty because the American government doesn’t have things like Universal Basic Income (UBI) and the cost of living is astronomical, and Hasan giving all his money away would mean he can’t afford to do what he does; instead, he uses the fame and fortune he’s acquired over the years to push for progressive policies like more taxes for the rich (including himself) and a gradual transition to a socialist state; you don’t see capitalist grifters arguing for this, they are keen to use fascist ideas to continually fuel capitalism; and
socialism doesn’t mean that all economic spoils are equally distributed to all people evenly; Karl Marx said that socialism is “from each according to his ability, to each according to his need”; socialism doesn’t prohibit the possibility of millionaires and rich people if those people earned their fortunes in socialist ways; what socialism does prohibit is the outsourcing of the means of production where ownership and operation of the economy are divorced; just look to China where this version of “market socialism” is allowed to exist and evolve.
So since you provided evidence that doesn’t really make your argument, I’ll bring some of my own:
Common L Twitch.
Ban was for 7 days, and Hasan appealed it to 3 days after taking a quiz.
In the meantime, he streamed on YouTube for the first time in like 7 years, had 140k viewers at the peak, and made a TON of money from super chats, all while being able to stream his regular news coverage AND attend the ICE Out of LA protest in solidarity.
Israel dick riders really got him good.
The only times Hasan has been banned from Twitch was for insulting racist white people. And they say he’s doing hate speech. Pathetic.
My wife was watching that stream and just in shock. He made something like
7 million dollars*$18,000 *from superchats on his first(?) YouTube stream. He started it bashing the platform and by the end he was talking about his plan for what he’ll be posting/streaming to YouTube in the long term. The temp ban definitely backfired by pushing him to a platform where he immediately got 10x the viewers he’d normally expectEdit: I had remembered a completely incorrect number for his superchat income
Is there a public source for where you got that super chats number?
Its just a number he mentioned during his stream. I don’t have a timestamp but the VOD is here
Apparently it’s $18,000 not $7,000,000, and Hasan donated it all to the Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights (CHIRLA).
Well shit I wonder where that number came from. Either way that’s a pretty dang good payout for the first stream on YouTube in 8 years
This guy is one the best grifters in the game. Right wing grifters hate him because he’s beating them at their own game.
Hasan is a grifter. Right.
Success = Grifter
That’s terminal capitalism brain for you
Yes he is by the very definition of the word
Grifters change what they say according to what’s popular. They can say one thing one week according to the news cycle, then say the exact opposite thing the next.
Assmanmold for instance is a grifter because he’s contradicts his beliefs as he follows what his audience believes the most. Most recent example of this was with Renee Good and Alex Pretti. Assman praised ICE in the former case and said they should do more of what they did to Renee. Then he condemned ICE in the latter case and demanded accountability.
Hasan has stayed true to his beliefs over the past 10-15 years he’s been doing political commentary. He’s believed certain things especially when it wasn’t popular, and suffered the consequences. Good example of this was October 7th when HAMAS bombed that music festival in Israel. Hasan explained the event as blowback of an oppressed nation against the oppressor regime, Israel, that had been committing apartheid and ethnic cleansing for decades. Hasan lost a third of his community as a result of his beliefs on October 7th, but he’s been clawing back a lot of those losses.
Hasan isn’t a grifter. He’s a left winger. And it just so happens that the right wing in America are fucking shit up so hard that the popular response in the American citizenry is to push left.
You’re an idiot if you don’t know the difference.
That’s not necessarily true. You can be very consistent as a grifters, a la, Ben Shapiro. The thing that’s a makes a grifter that is hypocrisy. They preach something for financial gain, but then use the money for something else. Hasan falls into this camp.
The fact that all his stans have resorted to insulting me right off the bat let’s me know that I am indeed correct
Ben Shapiro is actually losing prominence in contemporary politics, or at least American Republican politics, precisely because he won’t grift further to the right his other contemporaries like Tucker Carlson and Nick Fuentes. Shapiro is seeing more spotlight from the American Liberal media these days because he is consistent in his views, yet Liberals are approaching his positions.
Ben Shapiro is a counter argument to your position.
Oh I didn’t insult you right off the bat. I rejected your position.
Then you showed to the rest of us how much of a dumbass you were, to which I seized the moment.
Keep coping that you’re right though
I genuinely don’t care about the current status of Ben Shapiro. That’s besides the point.
What the fuck are you even talking about? The term “grift” is not a verb that indicates political leanings. A grifter is someone who engages in acts that swindle people out of their money. The concept has nothing to do with political views. That’s why both Hasan and Ben Shapiro are grifters.
Do you even know what we’re talking about?
Did you? You just made up a premise and went on a rant about it before calling me an idiot at the end.
A grifter doesn’t need to flip flop on their views in order to grift. A grifter can have a consistent position that they preach while they take the money they swindle to the bank. The deception comes from how their words and actions contradict each other. That’s what defines a grifter. Hasan, like Ben Shapiro, falls into this category. What he preaches is consistent, however, what he preaches and how he actually acts are fundamentally at odds at each other. The way he lives his life contradicts everything that he preaches, which can only mean that he’s saying what he is saying in order to swindle people for profit.
I’m sure you’re the type of neckbeard who has a whiteboard next to his bed to record all the internet people he’s rekt in online arguments.
Yet you brought him up, probably because you thought it’d help your argument.
Keep coping elsewhere, keyboard warrior libtard. In the meantime, there’s a socialist movement brewing outside. Maybe you should leave your mom’s basement for once, touch grass, and join in. You’ll have a lot more impact than whatever the fuck you’re trying to do on Lemmy.
Oh really. Exactly what does he grift people out of, oh wise one?
Money, how is that even a question?
Don’t you have to sell some junk supplements or something to be a grifter? Just cause you don’t like the guy doesn’t make him a grifter.
No, a grifter is a con artist who uses charm, deception, and manipulation to swindle people out of money or possession. Hasan fits this definition down to the letter.
It was people and comments like yours that made me discover, watch and like Hasan.
You are an imbecile for thinking that he is grifting. He is not. He is consistent with his core ideas. You must be one of those morons who think he should be broke because he calls himself a socialist/communist, no? Is that what it is? Because if so, you are so goddamn stupid if you still hold that argument in your hands. You will never defeat billionaires by being poor, dude. We need some people of our own with the same amount of power, do you understand that? I mean, Hasan likely has less than 100 million USD as a net worth, comparing him to Penguinz0’s 46M he has made with all his YouTube videos alone, both very active content creators, but Penguinz0 has way more people watching him everyday, because he attracts normies, Hasan attracts those obsessed with politics, which are more rare and few, especially leftists. Even yet, if he donated it all like you want him to, then how the fuck is he going to spread his core ideas further?
People who want him to self-host, to abandon Twitch because it belongs to Amazon, are also some of the dumbest people I have come across in my god damn life. I can go on and on about why that’d be incredibly unfeasible, incredibly outside Hasan’s or any other content creator’s hands. The amount of money you need to build the infrastructure is immense. If he cannot use AWS, he’d need to use CDN (which hold and behold, also have evil rich people owning the services), which is incredibly expensive to hold the bandwidth of 40,000 regular viewers everyday for 8 hours everyday. Then the marketing or means to gain traffic, it’s an incredibly absurd suggestion, I seriously hope you are not another one of those.
I have never given him a cent, yet I have enjoyed countless hours of his content, learning about how evil the Trump administration is, how evil Israel is, and which products, from popular brands owned by evil people I should avoid and convince my family of 100+ people to do the same.
You complain that he donates money for “PR”, which is also fucking stupid. The amount Hasan has donated, if measured by proportion of his total wealth, is higher than all the other millionaires and billionaires. At this point, if we are constantly surrounded by children like you, nobody is ever going to donate anymore, because people will ALWAYS call it fake. Congratulations, bub. You made donating a much less common practice. It was people like you that convinced rich people to hate us even more than they already do, and pushed them to do us more harm. We could’ve at least made it a little easier if it wasn’t for morons like you. Fuck donating, right? It will never be sincere, it will always be a waste of time and resources you could instead use to further damage the rich.
You criticized someone by saying “you’re literally incapable of producing a coherent, logical response” yet your response to this: “When has Hasan manipulated people?” was “All the time. How can you not see it?” You literally talk and sound like a MAGA, dude. You both use the same style of arguing: substance-less, empty, hollow, repeated NPC one-liners, insults, “do your own research” type of answer. It’s so fucking gross.
I am glad people like you leave these comments, though. They are great opportunities to display how fucking stupid Hasan’s haters are to the silent readers like me. No one does a better job at convincing people to listen to him than stupid morons like you. So, seriously, thank you so much for that. Every idiot you see repeating the “he shocks his dog” bullshit, is not that different from seeing Ethan Klein’s community constantly calling others a “pedophile, pedophile, pedophile” to ruin their lives and careers. You are disgusting and stupid as fuck if you really think talking like that is convincing anybody to like you or your favorite content creator / news anchor / politician / celebrity / ideology. You are only scaring people away, especially when you don’t offer anything convincing or logical, Mr. “All the time. How can you not see it?”
By the way, no one has asked you this, but why don’t you recommend us who to listen to? After all, you claimed this: “I like you unironically think that these 3 shithead grifters are the only role models out there for young men.”
What other content creators are you encouraging us to watch instead? Come on, tell us. It’s going to be so funny to see your own hypocrisy at full display.
It’s amazing how you wrote so much and yet said so little. I read your novel twice looking for a thesis to respond to, but there isn’t one… so I ended up reading a third time, and there’s still nothing. This whole essay of yours is literally nothing more than a collection of ad hom fallacies. I know this fallacy has become a buzzword, but the actual definition of it applies here. It’s literally just name calling me names like a hundred times. I tried to look past the insults to what your point is, but you don’t actually have a point, the insults are the point.
The thing that I don’t understand is that why you even wrote whatever this is in the first place? Not only is it giving me second hand embarrassment, but it also would’ve so much simpler, more mature, and more effective for you to just ask questions in good faith and then have me answer. I would’ve answered you and we could’ve had a discussion. Instead, you choose this and showed that you’re engaging in bad faith for no good reason.
When has Hasan conned people?
When has Hasan deceived people?
When has Hasan manipulated people?
You say Hasan swindles people of their money. How come he donates so much of what he makes then?
You are a shit-lib libtard that has no working brain. Either that, or you’re a troll or bot paid by foreign actors. Either way, your propaganda isn’t working as can be clearly seen in this comment section.
Hasan is a beacon of hope for young men that don’t have many other high profile male role models to look to, in a sea of Andrew Tate’s and Nick Fuentes’s. He believes in an alternative to the destructive system of capitalism that most of the world lives under. He is the answer for progressive politics in at least the US and really the whole world.
As soon as the winds shift his direction, you won’t be calling him out. You’ll be supporting him. And then you’ll be the mindless, grifting minion you hope no one will notice that you are now.
All the time. How can you not see it?
Why do billionaires donate money? It’s for PR.
I like how you’re so mentally inept that you’re literally incapable of producing a coherent, logical response. I guess your brain collapsed at the thought of doing something like that and this verbal vomit of a response is what it produced instead.
I like you unironically think that these 3 shithead grifters are the only role models out there for young men. I was just trying to insult you before, but you might actually be mentally inept.
He’s not going to let you tap lil bro
Please leave me out of your weird fanfics. I’m merely calling out grifters as they for what they are. If that ruffled your feathers then that’s on you.
Feel free to drop evidence that supports your claims. Shouldn’t be hard to find since you say he does this quite regularly. Almost all of Hasan’s life is on camera, so again you should have plenty of clips.
In the meantime, Hitchen’s Razor bitch.
Sure thing.
Hasan bought a $200000 sports car
Hasan buys a mansion for nearly $3 million mansion
Hasan wears nothing but luxury clothes and Jewelry. We’re not talking about normal brands that are a bit expensive because they’re good quality, no, we’re talking about the ultra high end designer brands that create artificial scarcity to inflate prices to a comical degree in order to sell the idea of exclusivity. He constantly brags about it on camera too. For example, here’s him talking about a buying $7000 Gucci suit on a whim
Hasan also launched his own clothing brand that he sells at exuberant prices. His gimmick is that the clothes are union made domestically, which he uses to justify the ridiculously high prices. He also runs a lot promotions and sales events, which means that he’s not selling his merch at the minimum necessary to keep the operation going in order to give his customers the best deal. Instead, he’s selling at a very juicy profit.
There’s many more examples, but you get the idea.
Unlike most people, my criticism of him is actually very specific. I don’t think he’s a grifter his host of vile views or his provocative ragebait content or even him making a lot of money doing what he does. No, the grifting comes specifically from the stark contrast of how he lives his life vs what he preaches to people. Because that deception is precisely what makes a grifter just that.
A lot of his fans try to dismiss this criticism by saying “oh but he has to participate in society”, but nobody is saying that he shouldn’t. I am not one of those people who thinks that he’s a hypocrite for not living in abject poverty. It’s completely reasonable anybody, including socialists, to seek a comfortable life in a capitalist society. However, there is a very big difference between participating in society and living in luxury. The former is something you have to do, but the latter is a conscious and unnecessary choice. Which again, would’ve been fine if he was honest with his audience… but he isn’t.
Hasan’s career consists of him selling people criticisms of capitalism as well as the idea of socialism on camera, being the epitome of a neoliberal capitalist outside of it. He wear crazy expensive designer clothes, he buys mansions, he buys sports cars, he companies that sell products for a high profit, and the list goes on and on. He directly benefits from, enables, and defends capitalism with his actions. Yet he’s preaching to people that this system is very bad, that materialism is killing our planet, that the profit model is the source of evil, that people should live from ability to need, that the rich are the source of society’s problem because they only care about themselves… he’s literally everything that he criticizes. This lucrative hypocrisy is what makes him a grifter.
When you really think about it, what makes him different from someone like Ben Shapiro? His left wing views? Okay, but what about in the abstract? If you remove the type of content they pump out, how are these two any different in their grifting? They’re both selling people bullshit ideas that they don’t believe in in order to make a profit.
Hasan buying a Porsche Taycan, a house in LA, and high line clothing doesn’t mean he’s a grifter. Hell, it doesn’t even contradict his being a socialist.
Hasan gets his money from his fans. He doesn’t own stocks. He isn’t invested in real estate or any other industry aside from the one he obviously gets most of his funding from: political commentary. He doesn’t rug pull his followers by introducing cryptocurrency or NFTs, which many if not most grifters have done, including Trump. Hasan doesn’t acquire capital in any way a “normal” capitalist would. His getting funding from his fans actually allows him to stay independent as a political commentator and be free from corporate main stream media and the US State Department pushing American-first propaganda. There are many benefits to being funded by his fans. He just has so many fans that people mistake that for his being a millionaire. He is, but being a millionaire in West Hollywood doesn’t mean he lives an extravagant life. If you want to criticize him for that, then criticize all of West Hollywood and California in general for making housjng that expensive. You choosing not to shows your bias.
Hasan likes cars. Hasan likes clothes, so much so that he started his own clothing company that just so happens to be union owned and operated. You say that his clothing brand is expensive because they want to run it for a profit. I’m sorry, but what the Union does and doesn’t do is none of your concern BECAUSE THEY STILL OPERATE IN A CAPITALIST HELLHOLE OF A COUNTRY. If Ideologie were to operate in a society like China, perhaps they would be able to drive down prices while at the same time paying a living wage to their workers. You’re ignoring the cost of living in California, and instead of wanting to fix that, you’re belief is that people should just move away or stop what they’re trying to do although. Painful mindset. Also, Hasan bought the LA house at that price because West Hollywood is really that expensive. And you conveniently failed to mention that Hasan bought such a big house because he wanted his family to move in with him so he could provide them a home and support them in general, like they did for him. You failing to mention these things shows your bias.
Hasan has these things, but that doesn’t mean he isn’t still a socialist. People arguing that Hasan should walk the talk and live what he believes fail to understand 2 things:
living like a socialist in the US is a quick strategy to poverty because the American government doesn’t have things like Universal Basic Income (UBI) and the cost of living is astronomical, and Hasan giving all his money away would mean he can’t afford to do what he does; instead, he uses the fame and fortune he’s acquired over the years to push for progressive policies like more taxes for the rich (including himself) and a gradual transition to a socialist state; you don’t see capitalist grifters arguing for this, they are keen to use fascist ideas to continually fuel capitalism; and
socialism doesn’t mean that all economic spoils are equally distributed to all people evenly; Karl Marx said that socialism is “from each according to his ability, to each according to his need”; socialism doesn’t prohibit the possibility of millionaires and rich people if those people earned their fortunes in socialist ways; what socialism does prohibit is the outsourcing of the means of production where ownership and operation of the economy are divorced; just look to China where this version of “market socialism” is allowed to exist and evolve.
So since you provided evidence that doesn’t really make your argument, I’ll bring some of my own:
Socialist Twitch star Hasan Piker raises $1 million for Palestinian aid
Twitch Streamer Hasan Piker Raises Over $100,000 for Strike Funds
Hasan Piker’s fundraising drive shows that Twitch can be a force for good
AOC (including Hasan) raised $200,000 for charity on her ‘Among Us’ Twitch stream Friday
Hasan Piker makes massive donations to LA-area animal shelters
Piker raised $100k for charity on Saturday alongside the creators of “No Other Land"
Hasan Piker is donating all $18,000 he received from Super Chat donations during his first Youtube live stream to The Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights (CHIRLA)
Hasan Donates $10k To Help Alveus Sanctuary After Flood Damages
Hasan Piker Unveils Union-Made Merch Brand ‘Ideologie’
Fear& Podcast Ownership
HasanAbi Buys People Presents For Socialistmas
one of hasan’s community members was able to partially pay their tuition by replaying clips of Hasan’s streams on youtube!
I’m not going to change your mind. But I will change someone else’s on Lemmy. That’s good enough for me.
I’m done having this conversation.
Go back to reddit bro.
Nah