[2025]
[a green character looks anxious, speaks] I fear some people in this movement may have a racial bias issue
[a yellow character looks pissed, raises their hand and talks back] Now’s not the right time to be saying that We can’t afford to be turning away people Stop trying to divide us racially You are an agitator
[the yellow character is now looking distraught] Huh, the movement has been coopted by liberals and fizzled out Nobody could have predicted this outcome
[2026] The exact same situation repeats
[2027] The exact same situation repeats
[2028] The exact same situation seems to be repeating endlessly
Shh we don’t say that part out loud and encourage them to actually do something for once.
10 years of doing nothing followed by “we always cared” is the usual fare.
I’ve been wondering for a while what will happen. If the USA doesn’t fully reform government, nothing will change, and this exact situation will repeat one day. They can’t just reinstate democrats and republicans that are focused on corporations and their own pockets. This really should be a fundamental rebirth of America once they remove the nazi threat.
It’s the continuation of a centuries long cycle.
The USA, being the most imperialist country, also becomes the most ruthless on its own population when the imperialism is turned inwards.
Imperial boomerang on steroids.
I just hope that the outcome is positive. Hopefully, something can break the cycle
With the way the fight is shaping up, the outcome will not be positive.
Maybe the abolish ICE movement will manage to stop them from shooting white people (which would be a small win tbh), but they don’t seem to have the teeth required to turn it into a proper radical movement that will attack the core issues and cure the USA from its rot. There’s no organization, no clear end goal, no leadership, it’ll end up being coopted by Gavin Newsom or some other soft centrist and turned into a propaganda movement for liberals in the 2026 primaries and 2028 election.
I’m afraid a real movement that provides actual systemic change in the USA and breaks the cycle can only come from minorities, from people who have nothing left to lose and won’t accept halfway concessions. Insert here the quote from MLK about the white liberal being a bigger enemy to minorities in the US than the KKK. If they cared, they’d have primary’d Biden out in favor of a progressive in 2024, since the ICE death camps continued killing people under his presidency.
Hmm I get where you’re coming from. It does seem concerning that they aren’t organized as much as they should be.
I have felt similar to you in some ways. The fact that people didn’t already have some kind of structure earlier on feels like a massive missed opportunity but I recognize that it’s probably easier said than done to organize a whole independent movement across a country. I agree it might very well end up that way.
I guess …I always like to prep for the worst and hope for the best. But don’t lose hope. I think there’s always time to turn things around.
Calling for a reform… current parties are too focused on corporations and their own pockets… fundamental rebirth of a nation… now where did I hear this before…
(No matter the party, nations are still bourgeois dictatorships - if you change the parties or their names, the existing material conditions will force parties to behave in more or less the same way (best seen with crises of capital). This applies to every nation in existence, it’s just less pronounced given less dominant economic position + internet being mostly US centric. The only way to permanently fix this is to get rid of underlying social relations and what manifests them e.g. private property, commodity production, wage labor and so on.)
That’s an interesting way of looking at it that I suppose I have thought of but haven’t really considered it in depth. I suppose my mentality has been “work within the accepted framework because trying to convince people of anything else feels impossible.”
I’m likely ignorant to a lot of this, however.
I wouldn’t be opposed to a change like that though. As long as conditions improve for everyone and it’s peaceful, I dont think i care what kind of system is put in place as long as everyone is treated properly. But now that I think about it more I can kinda get where you’re coming from. I am curious if it would work at scale, and in the meantime, what we could do about things currently. It feels like that would be a polar opposite of capitalism entirely.
Anyways, sorry, im rambling with my thoughts here.