Some people don’t believe me when I try to warn them about the content creator grift. I don’t care, I’m coming for all of them if they start spouting shit like this to their audience. They have a responsibility towards their viewers.

Second time I see him tweet shit like this.

At this point he should just stop pretending he’s any sort of leftist. His mental health will thank him.

archive link so he can’t scrub it off the internet: https://archive.ph/XWZD6 (still loading as of posting but should be ready eventually)

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    This sounds a lot like the “schrodinger’s douchebag” excuse:

    One who makes douchebag statements, particularly sexist, racist or otherwise bigoted ones, then decides whether they were “just joking” or dead serious based on whether other people in the group approve or not.

    A person who decides if they were being ironic or not base on how people react to it

    https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=schrodinger’s+douchebag

    Anyway, insults are not just insults. They carry ideology with them. If I were to use a slur against you, it would be carrying water for the ideology of that slur, even if I don’t actively believe in it myself.

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        Yep, that would be a problem. Directing it at rightists doesn’t give it the characteristics of leftism. It’s still got the rightist stench clinging to it. This is why it’s so important to interrogate reflexes even long after conscious beliefs change. Our habits do not change overnight based on what we believe in.

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          Yeah, ok, we’re different from the right because we’re differing on some goals AND on some means.
          Furthermore, the far-right is just mistaken, everyone makes mistakes, obviously, it’s not a genetic problem.

          But i find it funny when he says that they’re innately ret*rded, 🤷

          W/e, i won’t take more of your time

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            Why is it funny to you though? Keep in mind that the connotations of that word are tied to marginalization and caricature. It’s possible you find a caricature funny without realizing that it’s a harmful and hurtful representation of people who have never actually existed in the caricature form, in order to justify marginalizing them. In other words, it may be the joke is on you for thinking you’re looking down on someone and you’re laughing at a specter that was created to justify oppression.

            We don’t need to be ableist in order to laugh at the right sometimes. I’ll tell you something I think is funny, when the consequences of their bullshit come back to bite them, like alluded to here: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/10509392

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              You’re right, if other people than the ones i’m aiming the insult at are also hurt, then i shouldn’t hurt them, we can do better indeed.
              But that kind of internet trial in his back didn’t please me, as i said before i should have just ignored the post.

              It was sincerely very nice talking with you, thanks a lot :) !

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          Do they really care though if i use the word stupid instead of ret*arded ?
          Is r*tard some kind of official name to designate them unlike stupid, like jew, dwarf, or n*gger, hence why it shouldn’t be used in the context of an insult ?

          Well, w/e, ok then, it’s not as if i had any problem with the “mentally challenged” minority.

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              Now you’re juste ragebaiting me(, if not from the start) 🙄

              Why does every discussion i have online ends up in a clash, even on Lemmygrad ?

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                I’m sorry, are you just poorly articulating yourself or is your position that you agree with the assertion that people with intellectual disabilities are “not human?”

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                For your own personal development: its a mixture of failure to empathize, poor articulation, and likely a lack of reading and socialization/experience.

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            That slur is used against people who are disabled. It was historically created for that purpose, too, in a medical setting by doctors.

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              Do doctors still call them ret*rd ? And if they now call them mentally challenged, then am i allowed to use mentally challenged as a slur against someone else ?

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                No… You’re an awful person and have no place in any leftist circle. This conversation is disturbing.

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                  Then i’m allowed to insult someone by saying they’re stupid, but not by saying that they’re mentally challenged, otherwise it’s an ableist slur, i think i got it(, not sure).

                  I’ve been banned for that, because i’m apparently ableist, which i know i’m not but what i believe doesn’t matter. I won’t be coming back so you’ll say good riddance i guess, bye 🫶

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                    because i’m apparently ableist, which i know i’m not but what i believe doesn’t matter.

                    You weren’t being called ableist. The language you were using is ableist. There is a difference. Not all criticism is a personal attack on you.

                    I won’t be coming back so you’ll say good riddance i guess, bye

                    This is a childish overreaction. I’m sure the ban wasn’t meant to be permanent, just to give you some time to cool down. All you need to do is stop being so defensive, accept the comradely criticism and move on, and so will everyone else. You don’t need to win every argument or immediately throw a tantrum and leave over being called out when you are wrong about something.

                    Even if you still think you are right, this is a ML space. It behooves you to accept the democratic centralist consensus on this issue. Leave your ego at the door.