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Ok, that’s honestly weird, because the r-word simply means that they’re a bit more late than others(, it comes from the french ret*rder = to delay), while mentally disabled implies that they don’t have a mental world

we don’t call mentally disabled folks those in a clinical sense (except for dumb).

And except for idiot(, mental age < 2-3 y.o.), imbecile(, 3-7 y.o.), and moron(, 7-12 y.o.), …
I genuinely don’t know why the r-word was an exception out of all these terms.

I also don’t know how the r-word can rob them of anything(, just like calling someone an idiot don’t seem to rob them of anything), but it manifestedly comes from a good intention.
I suppose that i can’t insult someone of being a son of a b*tch since that’d be insulting to sex workers, implying that the latter are “subhumans”. But i suppose that an insult like “piece of shit” is ok only because a shit isn’t conscious.
Let’s change our language to be less exclusive, why not. Let’s also change the mods so that they’re less of an asshole.

Anyway, thanks for taking the time to explain all this in such a kind manner.

I’m technically doing ban evasion so i won’t stay long, but i can’t help but continue to be curious, sorry. I shouldn’t insult someone with the r-word because that’s ableist, i shouldn’t also say as an insult that they’re mentally challenged for the same reason, but i can say that they’re stupid, am i right ?

I’m not mocking you by asking this question, it may sound obvious to you but i live in France so we may not have that here( yet).
I’ve seen that it’s a slur, but i honestly don’t know if the r-word extend to the word “stupid”, since there’s no difference between these two medical terms(, my surprise can be understood i think).

You’re right, if other people than the ones i’m aiming the insult at are also hurt, then i shouldn’t hurt them, we can do better indeed.
But that kind of internet trial in his back didn’t please me, as i said before i should have just ignored the post.

It was sincerely very nice talking with you, thanks a lot :) !

Then i owe you an apology.

(I still won’t answer you since that’d be going further in the ban evasion, and it’s too long you have better things to do, but in short they tolerate our leftism but we don’t tolerate theirs, sometimes cancelling them but we need numbers, so-called “antifas” tried to cancel people like Étienne Chouard or David Rovics, yugopnik could hopefully understand your point and his tweet wasn’t meant to be taken that seriously, he’s just saying half-jokingly “i can’t explain it otherwise because the far-right is not logical by any mean !”, good quote&point from Lenine, saying that people from the far-right ought to have lost some chromosomes would be an ableist joke ?, that post isn’t helpful to yugopnik in the way you’re presenting it since he won’t see it so that’s more like talking in his back, nor is it addressed in a loving manner, i don’t believe you intended to harm him though because you’d have been contented with knowing that he understood his mistake, and also because as you say you were opposing the rightist view and not the leftist individual)

I think it’s better to write that than nothing. I don’t intend to come back here because in that comment i ended up complaining about the downvotes solely because the mods were scaring me, it’s not an enjoyable feeling.
But please take care of lemmygrad, it’s an important place on Lemmy and i’m still glad that it exists.

I wrote a long answer(, in which i agree with a lot of things you said, it was well-written and thank you for taking such a long time), but i won’t post it since you banned me.

I just want to say as my last words that i could have banned you for saying that C.Johnstone is a liberal with midly progressive views, or that yugopnik is defending petty-bourgeois views, clearly crazy opinions. Of course i wouldn’t do that because everyone makes mistakes, but i could have, and you think it couldn’t happen to you but i wouldn’t ask for your opinion, you’d just be banned whether it’s just or not.

Bye.

Then i’m allowed to insult someone by saying they’re stupid, but not by saying that they’re mentally challenged, otherwise it’s an ableist slur, i think i got it(, not sure).

I’ve been banned for that, because i’m apparently ableist, which i know i’m not but what i believe doesn’t matter. I won’t be coming back so you’ll say good riddance i guess, bye 🫶