• DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    19
    ·
    2 months ago

    The US doesn’t give the US all the credit. People that don’t pay attention in class give the US all the credit.

    If there’s a flaw in how it’s taught I’d say it’s the over focus on the the US, UK, and Soviets implied by the literally famous phrase “American steel, British intelligence/grit, and Russian blood.” For one thing it conflates Soviet blood with Russian which is it’s whole own thing.

    • Mantzy81@aussie.zone
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      2 months ago

      For another, as an Australian and ANZAC day around the corner, it was British Empire blood, not just those from Britain - Indians, Canadians, Aussies and Kiwis plus all the other countries the UK had under its yoke.

      But I do think you’re probably statistically to the right on the bell curve in knowing that. Alas the majority of USians would struggle to find the US on a world map, let alone know world history. The propaganda also runs strong.

      • WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        2 months ago

        Canada wasn’t under the UK yoke. The Statute of Westminster gave Canada full control of its foreign policy in 1931. We chose to fight the Nazis of our own volition.

        • Mantzy81@aussie.zone
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          2 months ago

          And Australia was federated in 1901 so neither were we. But we were all still under Empire mentally and felt obliged to help mum out. It was the 2 wars which really killed that final Empire connection and we drifted away mentally from them. And government Acts soon followed, for example, it was 1947 when Brits were no longer automatically Canadians too, the 1950s when they dropped the “Dominion” part of their name and 1977 when Canadians stopped being Brits automatically and 1980 when “O Canada” officially became Canada’s national anthem - Australia had similar Acts under a similar timeline. So whilst yes, I agree in principle, we all had a choice to not go to war, and we had our own self-governing countries, there was no chance we weren’t going because we had an obligation, if not ordered (a la India who were still under direct control).

          The Dominion system, its phasing out and the subsequent formation of the British Commonwealth are part of our joint histories. Apologies for the wiki page but it’s a good starting point if nothing else.

    • Frozengyro@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      2 months ago

      If you asked today’s average American who were the Soviets, I doubt you’d get a correct answer.

    • someguy3@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      2 months ago

      It’s media that gives credit and that’s all there is these days. Too many people: “Have you ever heard of anyone else at Omaha and Utah Beach? No.”