Have you previously posted on the topic of AI before? There’s been a few write ups by some very intelligent comrades here that personally opened my eyes on AI. I seem to recall your name popping up in the debates but I can’t find any of the write ups I found convincing.
Tbh maybe I should’ve specified, I was more talking about like AI as in would conscious digital beings be considered proletarian, obviously that’s very different from AI tools, so in my original intended context your reply sounds like slavery but obviously you didn’t have that context because I failed to provide it lol
Conscious digital beings don’t exist, so you’re asking a speculative question about something that’s already very speculative. IMO it’s premature to give it serious consideration.
Also depending on how you define consciousness and its ability to exist in a simulation that fruit fly that had its brain copied identically and simulated might disagree with you lol
Idk why it shouldn’t be considered, it’s far more plausible than artificial superintelligence and there’s thousands of papers, books, etc on that.
I think the only reason why it hasn’t really been considered in the AI research space is because it doesn’t really pose an existential threat to humanity.
Ok yeah, that’s a more interesting question. Part of the problem is we don’t have a clear definition for what consciousness is right now, but I’d argue that if we created a system that had volition, and declared itself to be conscious, then we should err on the side of caution and treat it as such. In that scenario, I would argue it should be treated the same way we treat a human.
I don’t see why not. If these tools are developed and owned by the workers then they would serve the proletariat.
Have you previously posted on the topic of AI before? There’s been a few write ups by some very intelligent comrades here that personally opened my eyes on AI. I seem to recall your name popping up in the debates but I can’t find any of the write ups I found convincing.
yeah, I ended up writing a couple of articles on the subject after some heated discussions here :)
Yogthos has definitely posted on the subject before in favor of proletarian use of AI, but not sure of which post you have in mind. CriticalResist also has a good essay on the conversations surrounding AI, on ProleWiki: https://en.prolewiki.org/wiki/Essay:Intellectual_property_in_the_times_of_AI
Tbh maybe I should’ve specified, I was more talking about like AI as in would conscious digital beings be considered proletarian, obviously that’s very different from AI tools, so in my original intended context your reply sounds like slavery but obviously you didn’t have that context because I failed to provide it lol
Conscious digital beings don’t exist, so you’re asking a speculative question about something that’s already very speculative. IMO it’s premature to give it serious consideration.
Also depending on how you define consciousness and its ability to exist in a simulation that fruit fly that had its brain copied identically and simulated might disagree with you lol
Also in case you wanna learn more about this lol
Original connectome: https://www.virtualflybrain.org/
The recent project built off of that: https://eon.systems/updates/embodied-brain-emulation
Idk why it shouldn’t be considered, it’s far more plausible than artificial superintelligence and there’s thousands of papers, books, etc on that.
I think the only reason why it hasn’t really been considered in the AI research space is because it doesn’t really pose an existential threat to humanity.
Ok yeah, that’s a more interesting question. Part of the problem is we don’t have a clear definition for what consciousness is right now, but I’d argue that if we created a system that had volition, and declared itself to be conscious, then we should err on the side of caution and treat it as such. In that scenario, I would argue it should be treated the same way we treat a human.