Cet article est aussi disponible en français. This article contains quite a few technical terms, which I will explain these in the following paragraphs, those that are already familiar with these terms may skip to the next section. A basic understanding of linux and it’s desktop environments is assumed. Server side decorations (SSD) is the term for when when the application’s titlebar is drawn by the system and client side decorations (CSD) is the term for when the applications draws it’s own titlebar. KDE prefers the former, while GNOME prefers the latter. KDE and most other desktop environments supports both, while GNOME only supports CSD.

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/57302675

an article explaining why GNOME should support SSD, but also arguing against the reasons often given for why they shouldn’t

If someone could repost this to r/GNOME I would appreciate it, since I don’t have a reddit account.

  • JSens1998@lemmy.ml
    1·
    2 days ago

    I HATED GNOME when I first tried it. They keep trying to reinvent the condom for absolutely no reasons other then “we know what you actually want” and that to me, goes against what Linux is as a whole. Fuck gnome

  • Quazatron@lemmy.world
    2·
    5 days ago

    I’ve avoided Gnome since the shift to GTK 3, when it became apparent that the devs were hiding functionality in the name of some greater vision that was never explained to lesser mortals.

    You don’t get to treat me as a moron, only my wife can do that.

    XFCE and KDE have served me well, at least they don’t hide settings and functionality from me.

    • Scrollone@feddit.it
      2·
      5 days ago

      I agree. GNOME 3 is completely unusable, and I can’t stand client side decorations because it leads to inconsistencies and ugly apps. Give me a standard title bar FFS

      • Quazatron@lemmy.world
        2·
        4 days ago

        I wouldn’t say unusable, it’s tolerable. But it does get in your face in a very opinionated way, that gets old fast.

  • asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev
    1·
    5 days ago

    It’s funny how many GNOME people whine about the title bar wasting so much space when GNOME apps literally look like as if they’ve been made for touchscreen users. Also, what about the great black bar on the top of the system?

    We should honestly just leave GNOME behind and have them deal with it. We won’t move forward much with their child-like stubbornness and toxic community.

  • Hadriscus@jlai.lu
    1·
    5 days ago

    I’m a bit out of the loop,… but every time I hear about the gnome project it sounds a bit authoritarian and close minded. Maybe it’s because they’re spread thin ? but it seems more like they have tunnel vision. They remind me of Apple

    • brooke592@sh.itjust.works
      1·
      24 hours ago

      They wish they were Apple, lol.

      Apple actually makes good design decisions that their users like.

      Everyone tries to copy Apple. Nobody tries to copy gnome.

    • Holytimes@sh.itjust.works
      2·
      3 days ago

      Gnome is the apple of the Linux world. It’s their way or the high way, and you have to smack a butt load of mods to make it remotely modifiable.

      • Hadriscus@jlai.lu
        1·
        3 days ago

        yes, I’ve had to install extensions to add basic things, and some said they were compatible but in fact weren’t… it was complicated

    • warmaster@lemmy.world
      1·
      5 days ago

      I love Gnome, for me… their UI is the most beautiful of any desktop OS. But I had to move to KDE Plasma primarily for all the gaming related features that come out first on Plasma. That led me to see just how much flexibility I was missing.

      Now I greatly value both desktop environments, both visions are valid, but they cater completely different minded users.

      • Hadriscus@jlai.lu
        1·
        5 days ago

        Beautiful, I agree. It looks slick, but that’s not what I am looking for in a tool

    • Eggymatrix@sh.itjust.works
      1·
      5 days ago

      Good software should be handled like that, try looking at how the kernel does things.

      Sadly for gnome doing so does not make you automathically good software

    • Scrollone@feddit.it
      0·
      5 days ago

      Yeah, I can’t stand GNOME. It’s completely unusable.

      KDE is great and also the Linux Mint DE, Cinnamon.