Amazon’s Ring to partner with Flock, a network of AI cameras used by ICE, feds, and police

  • termaxima@slrpnk.net
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    2 months ago

    Hot take : almost no one actually needs security cameras in their home.

    For the very few who do, visible fake cameras do 95% of the job of real cameras with none of the drawbacks.

    EDIT : I’ll go even further and say an official looking sticker / plaque that says something like “this house has cameras” does at least 50% of the work already.

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      6 days ago

      If you can discourage people from breaking in with a fake camera, you live in a country with a lot of idiots,

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        3 days ago

        How would an intruder ever know the difference ? Just set up a defective camera that you can get for a fraction of the price of a working one.

        There is absolutely no way to tell whether the camera actually works or not. It does the same “scarecrow” job a real one would, but doesn’t need any of the infrastructure or upkeep.

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      2 months ago

      Raspberry pi + pi camera + camera case connected to wifi is way better anyway and doesn‘t steal your data

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      3 months ago

      The only drawbacks to having actual security cameras is when you trust your data to a 3rd party known to use your data for evil.

      If you record things locally, there’s really zero drawbacks.

      • Humanius@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        Hypothetically the police could come with a warrant and force you to hand over the footage you recorded. It’s a higher barrier than if footage is being uploaded to the cloud, but it can still happen.

        And even if the cameras are not uploading their footage to the cloud, it still wouldn’t sit well with me if every other house has a camera pointed at the public street

        Where I live it is technically illegal to record the public street with an automated camera, but it’s not really being enforced. So there is Ring cameras everywhere.

  • Scrambled Eggs @lazysoci.al
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    3 months ago

    Unfortunately I recently purchased a couple of ring cameras. Are there any alternatives? One with an app and data base with a similar subscription?

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      3 months ago

      Reolink is what I use. Fairly similar in utility and options. Prices are ok but they go on sale pretty often. Poe, solar, and battery options for power.

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        2 months ago

        Friendly reminder that Reolink cameras need to be denied internet access / isolated on the network because they constantly reach out to a bunch of Chinese IP addresses.

  • njordomir@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    I read this a while back and am already taking action to replace my Ring cams and doorbell with locally controlled Reolink cameras. I already have them set up and working on my desk, just need to finish the actual install. I am currently trying to figure out why I’m getting <12v on my doorbell circuit.