So, it seems like PieFed is becoming a real alternative to lemmy.

What are the differences between these two? From a tech perspective, and also morality/ethics, if you want. Any differences in vision for these services?

Say whatever is on your mind. I want to know.

On which one should we put our weight?

Edit: I will leave this post here, which is a post by one of the devs of Lemmy that enumerates some of the things Lemmy 1.0 has. Lemmy 1.0 seems to be already in alpha stage and is already testable. The feature selection does look fantastic. Here is the post I am referring to: https://lemmy.ml/post/40744781

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    The people who use Mastodon are very different from the people who use Bluesky. The people who use BlueSky are the former unhinged left wing Twitter users of years past that gave the platform it’s notoriety as being the most toxic platform on the internet. When Musk took over, Twitter’s title as the worst platform remained the same, except he shifted the source of the toxicity from being left wing to being right wing. This led the unhinged left wing Twitter users to seek a clone that replicated the toxic environment that they once thrived in, and BlueSky just happened to be the one that lucked out.

    The point is that the BlueSky people don’t care about anything outside political tribalism. That’s what drove them out of Twitter and it’s what drove them to BlueSky. That makes them very different from Mastodon users who, for the most part, actually value things like privacy, security, freedom of the internet, ownership, and control. The people who use Mastodon are tech nerds, privacy activist, or niche interest groups that thrive in such a space like the crypto community. I feel like even if we streamlined the process and it easier for people to join, the BlueSky types still wouldn’t have an interest in joining.

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      Damn, I suspected as much but thanks for confirming. I never created an account so I didn’t know if that would change anything in terms of what I could see was on it but it seems not. The default feed exposed to people without an account never really enticed me to check it routinely.

      So where are the reporter types (& comic artists, etc.) then, mostly, other than just straight-up X, or shifting more towards private or public blogs like Substack (which is not federated though its open-source rival Ghost is)? I recognize that it is not a binary yes-no answer, and also that the answer is likely “pretty much just on X”, with a much more extremely minor theme adding “somewhat, inconsistently on Mastodon, despite the fact that their followers are mostly not”. And I cannot fault them too awfully much even for their short-sighted thinking, since they need followers or else they cannot exist, and when Mastodon instances go down I thought there is no way to move followers elsewhere, plus the issue of celebrity impersonation seems to remain still. Mastodon needs to work on those issues if they want people to use it.

      Just like Lemmy needs to work on its ability to create at least SOME spaces more free of the toxicity that pervades the entirety of the Threadiverse and causes people to nope out immediately, then complain bitterly about us here over on e.g. r/RedditAlternatives and on Bluesky. I am 100% in agreement with “People could make as many fediverse platforms as they want, it doesn’t mean anything if nobody is using them.”, which is why I am placing my hopes on PieFed to work more quickly to address the main concerns. It has already pretty much entirely solved the content discovery problem, and after expending so much effort on its API to enable 3rd-party apps I hope it gets back to enabling easier moderation features, although it already offers so much - more than Lemmy - in that regard.