I’ll spend more time talking to people, plotting Linux phone world domination type stuff and planning to take people off WhatsApp with XMPP folks, tbh

Apparently some interesting XMPP talks, but I haven’t had a closer look at the schedule yet

As there’s currently no functionality for that type of Secure Boot, it’d require an exploit that manupulates the firmware, which is unlikely to happen any time soon.

I don’t even like Flatpak, yet here I am thinking this is a stupid comment.

Congrats to Katzenmann for publishing this app. Will try it on my Debian phone, was looking for something like this!

Also, CLI apps are not that great on phones. I like CLI on a desktop computer, but on my Debian phone I prefer GUI.

I just wish I could have Secure Boot on a Mac, that’s the reason I don’t have one running Linux, currently on a ThinkPad X13s with a Snapdragon SoC. Encryption without something like Secure Boot… nah.

Once that’s a thing, though, it gets very interesting to me.

Let me know if you try it again, would like to know if that’s something that I can recommend to those that are still on Windows.

Well, of course it seems outdated, Ubuntu 24.04 was released two years ago. :p

What’s the post about?

I prefer just reusing the same software I use on my desktop, which is what I’m doing on my phone. I’ve ported Mobian to the Pixel 3a for precisely that reason.

I want the same software on the go.

Android is a Google project, you’ll always keep fighting your upstream.

Thanks for your rant, you’re absolutely right.

Now, regarding the original question, what is good? Celebrate the great technology you use! :)

Don’t worry about having people to talk to, XMPP is going through a renaissance!

Nowaydays XMPP uses OMEMO. It’s what Signal uses, but made to work with XMPP and with a different name for legal reasons.

OTR is not what you should use nowadays, it’s been broken.

XMPP hasn’t been very mobile friendly around a decade ago, which has in large part been due to OTR, which only works with two devices and both have to be online. Also, there hasn’t really been support for offline message storage.

A lot of other things have improved and nowadays XMPP is pretty much the most battery friendly option out there and Conversations can even be a UnifiedPush provider. Which makes sense as both Google’s and Apple’s push implementations are based on XMPP, so we know it works well.

What do you like about it?

That’s why we need to decentralise communication everywhere.

Good luck trying to surveil all of XMPP. It just does not work. The server operators could be forced, but the client developers would just not release an update with a backdoor and instead just stop developing their clients.

I never understood the obsession to use Facebook Messenger in Denmark. First time someone asked me whether I “use messenger”, I said “Yes, three different ones” and the person was bewildered while I was confused.

This is an important area where everyone can start:

1. Find an XMPP provider
2. Install app, create account
3. Move conversations over
4. Delete Facebook account at some point

Free conversations from big tech, use something that does not depend on a single provider. Monopolies are bad, not just if they’re from the US. Try to use something from Europe that isn’t based on monopolies.

Here’s a flyer from the Digital Independence Day that has recently been proclaimed by the Chaos Computer Club and several other German organisations: https://shop.digitalcourage.de/files/xmpp-folder-engl-druck.pdf

XMPP shows pretty well that XML can do things that cannot be done easily without it. XMPP wouldn’t work nearly as well with JSON. Namespaces are a super power.

That’s not a feature, that’s just control.

Proticols dont do any thing. Platforms/implementations do

Protocols ensure interoperability between implementations, platforms are not necessary. XMPP works just fine without it.

there are extentions that support e2e, I was just saying that is core to Matrix spec and thus every implementation.

No, there are many implementations that in fact do not support E2EE and also many that cannot keep up with the many protocol changes.

Heck, I’d think Matrix, Nostr, and XMPP would better than email, which itself is better than shudders propritary “social” media, or plutocrat accounts like Google, Apple, or Microsoft.

I partly agree. Email has issues, but largely works. Proprietary “social” media is just hell. I haven’t looked into Nostr yet, but am going to. Matrix is slow, XMPP has proven to work well for a while, it has been around since 1999 after all. It is extensible, which means you can make it work just as well in the future.

Not a fan of Matrix in particular, but I guess it’s still better than Facebook, but that’s not a high bar.