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Cake day: August 18th, 2023

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  • Do the good thing. North Korea can do it. Yemen can do it. Cuba can do it. China doesn’t get a pass from me just because you think it would hurt their PR (to do something that would make them heroes on the global stage! You think sanctioning Israel would hurt their PR? Or did you forget the topic of itnernational law that I’m talking about? Reminder: It’s the fucking genocide convention that you’re saying they aren’t obligated to enact.).






  • I am also sure our comrades there have thought of these things. I am sure their calculus is different than ours. They are trying to build socialism in China. They have a long-standing policy of non-involvement. I support it until it comes to genocide.

    Sure, but only because them “doing something about it” would also mean that they have the material conditions to do so, which is the only reason they would make that decision.

    This sounds like handwaving away criticism to me. They don’t do it? Well they would if they could! But people smarter than me decided they can’t! Tough luck!

    I reject that as defeatism.

    when they say that they can’t do much more than they already are

    Did they say that? I’ve not seen so much as a statement to that effect. Are you sure you’re not wishcasting?

    That would mean that everything we support, we support critically, which then removes the meaning of critical support imo.

    How? I don’t follow. Yes, only give support critically. Never give uncritical support. Nobody is above reproach and everyone should be criticized as long as that criticism is principled and strategic.



  • I’m not saying China needs to go in guns blazing like Yemen, but they could unquestionably move the needle. If they did, you’d support it, right? If so, how could you defend them doing basically NOTHING about it? NOTHING about Gaza. NOTHING about Cuba. Propose something at the UN and say they support international law while not even asking for the GA to act outside the UNSC.

    The alternative to critical support is uncritical support, and I’d hope no Marxist gives uncritical support to literally anything.


  • Ok, then you’re saying China doesn’t care about and isn’t bound by international law because the bad guys aren’t doing it. Hardly a robust position, comrade. Look at Yemen. They’re upholding international law. One of the only ones to do anything about it. Is little Yemen more powerful than China, or are they just more bullish on humanity? “Critical support” means support with criticism. This thread lacks that criticism, imo.