Lately I’ve been noticing that the people who mainly should not have children, whether due to economic limitations, illnesses, or even mental instability, are the ones who have the most children, and many times they end up as single fathers/mothers. My question is whether it would be a good idea to implement some kind of regulation and set minimum requirements that must be met, mainly to prevent the child from ending up in the future as a criminal or a social burden due to those factors.

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    22 hours ago

    I just sat at the breakfast table. This is not what I want to read when the day starts.

    But fine. Let’s do this.

    Why? What is your concern? And what is your solution?

    In no instance whatsoever a state may or should interfere with the inate right for an individual to have a family.

    Being a single parent is not something you can control. A mother can die at birth, a father can die from an accident or illness, etc. In fact, failling to support such individuals that, regardless being left to take care of a child, or more, alone, do it nonetheless, is a failure for a society. It is a very weak one that does not recognize such commitment and courage.

    Suffering from a mental ailment, again, is not something one can control. Most of those who suffer from one are often victims of circumstances they can not control: trauma, anxiety, depression, etc. Severe genetic born mental issues often are self excluding from forward passing. And being a carrier of a mental or any other condition does not make an individual automatically useless or a burden.

    Again, it is a very weak society one that fails to support their weakest or vulnerable.

    And being poor is not a problem: it’s a sign societies are not balanced. A society is only as strong as their weakest. Access to education, healthcare, justice and social support are pillars to strong societies, that in turn create stable and evolved societies, capable of advancing the human project.

    A society that opts to micromanage and deny inate aspirations to any of their members is a doomed project of one. One can not build one’s rights at the expense of the rights of others.

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      21 hours ago

      Just wondering about other people thinking on it, I do not have any solution about it in mind, I was just wondering about whether it should or not.

      Thanks for your answer.

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        21 hours ago

        And what are your own thoughts on this? Your concerns? At what is troubling you? Questions like these are not spontaneous. Something must have stirred them in your mind.

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          14 hours ago

          Honestly I don’t care too much about it, I was just wondering what will happen if there is still no control about all the people just having kids wo any requirement while they don’t have any condition to support these kids correctly. But I stated in other comments before I don’t believe it is of any interest to the government or anyone with power to do such a thing, they need cheap labor force to move the economy so they will let everyone in such conditions to keep having even more kids.

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          19 hours ago

          This comment thread of theirs was likely the start, but probably not the first time they’ve thought about this.

          Not just rich people, also stupidity is a threat to democracy but how to fix it?

          Unfortunately, most people didn’t realize their instance and replied in good faith. Someone replied to them basically saying that education was dismantled to keep people stupid to benefit the rich, and then OP replied with a lovely comment hinting at eugenics.

          Trust me there are people who even using the best education they stop being stupid is like it is in their genes.

          They commented that right before this post. Notice how they wanted to “fix” stupidity, and then they tried to pull the conversation into supporting eugenics.

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            19 hours ago

            That may be it. Or it may be something else. And that is why I am still hoping OP will reply to me.

            Talking and exchanging ideas and viewpoints is the best way to push back stupidity, which I think it has been extremely abused as a word lately, when ignorance would be better used.

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              9 hours ago

              OP’s mind is already made up, as you can see. They just wanted to ruffle up some feathers. They aren’t here for actual debate.

              They’re “just asking questions” in the Steven Crowder and Ben Shapiro way.