• Wren@lemmy.today
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    5 days ago

    Ever heard the phrase 1+1=3 for high values of 1? Equations “work” because numbers are abstract representations of value we assign.

    We observe particles and forms of radiation we can’t explain the origins of or name literally everywhere we look, which is an infinitesimally, incomprehensibly small mote of the universe.

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      4 days ago

      Any system that can be predicted accurately, is a system of cause and effect. The abstract nature of maths to describe the universe is not incongruent with causality. Not having an explanation, or not being able to observe, or having too little information, is not evidence of a lack of cause and effect.

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        4 days ago

        No, a lack of evidence for determinism is a lack of evidence for determinism.

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          3 days ago

          Yet there’s a mountain of evidence efor determinism? Magnitudes more than for…non-determanism.

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              2 days ago

              If you drop something, it falls and will do so consistently if the context is similar enough. Every object that moves and can be accurately predicted, like all the planets and stars in the sky.

              I’m not going to continue with someone who can’t admit to the observable causation that governs the movement of their own body ffs.

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                2 days ago

                I’m less enthusiastic about someone who can’t cite peer reviewed sources. Your arguments are anecdotal at best.

                Astrophysics on a macro scale can only be predicted within a margin of error. Particle and light physics are less predictable. Source: Already posted them.