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    After the US murdered hundreds of children, but before the US violated its own ceasefire, Iran was willing to store excess enriched uranium in a third country. Its actually insane how conciliatory and willing to give the US an exit Iran has been.

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      It’s was Iran that resumed attacks after the ‘ceasefire’, after internal opposition flared up against the politicians that had agreed to it

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        Actually no. The USA breached several of the clauses in the MoU immediately after signing it. Including threatening the life of negitiators (in violation of #1 and #2), and trying to divert traffic through the shallow southern coast of the Persian Gulf (in violation of #5).

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            Okay, let’s clarify. The Islamabad MoU was signed on June 15. As per clause §1, the parties agreed to end hostilities on all fronts and explicitly in Lebanon. Hezbollah agreed. Israel did not, and continued to attack Beirut every day, with the USA’s blessing. The USA could have done any number of things to try to reign in their rabid dog, even something performative, but elected not to do so.

            That’s the breach of the ceasefire, and it’s the background to the other breaches of the MoU by the USA that I mentioned above.

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              It feels like you’re just throwing stuff at the wall here

              The USA never interfered in Lebanon and Israel doesn’t have anything to do with the MoU.

              Israel even has agreements with Lebanon allowing them to strike back at Hezbollah

              So we went from “USA breached the ceasefire first” to “Hezbollah and Israel never stopped fighting”

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                I’m explaining why world events are unfolding how they are. Right or wrong, Iran’s view is that the USA could wield massive influence over Israel’s actions with regard to their genocide and their war against Lebanon. The USA and Iran agreed that an end to the hostilities in Lebanon was §1, but the USA did nothing to honor it.

                You’re correct that Israel didn’t get a seat at the negotiating table. Nor should they have one. They should get told in no uncertain terms to stop their fucking genocide or face consequences, by their master the USA. Failing that, it’s going to be Hormuz blockade and Red Sea blockade, and now those things are a reality.

                The next step is to fuck over Israel’s gas shipments via Azerbaijan by the way.

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                  To get peace in Lebanon, Iran needs to shut down Hezbollah. They never took steps there either. So in that regard, Iran immediately broke #1 by your definition and that explains why things are how they are

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                    Hezbollah agreed to stop fighting and they virtually kept their word for a month while Israel bombed Beirut every single day. We know who the real aggressors are, incapable of making a deal, and it’s the United States and their dog Israel.

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                Everything written previously was incorrect. The Lebanese government did not give Israel permission to strike Hezbollah. If it had, it wouldn’t be a ceasefire. The agreement explicitly states that the Lebanese government not Israel is responsible for disarming Hezbollah.

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                  You’re very close to seeing the light

                  The agreement with Lebanon states that Israel can retain it’s buffer zone and ‘defend itself’ while Lebanon tries to disarm Hezbollah and remove them from the south

                  What would you think happens when Hezbollah attacks Israel or Israeli troops during that time? Do you feel the agreement means the Israelis have to sit back and take it?

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                    No, the agreement do not tell Israel they can strike back and israeli is even attacking the official lebanese armt.

                    What would you think happens when Hezbollah attacks Israel or Israeli troops during that time? Do you feel the agreement means the Israelis have to sit back and take it?

                    Israel was occupying shabaa farms and Hezbollah attacked it during october 8. Israeli as the illegal occupier has zero right to do anything against who they occupy . In the fake 2024 cease fire, Israel also broke it from day 1. They always do it. Fuck you and all your family for defending the terrorist state of Israel

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        The usa broke the mou so Iran has the right to nullify it. The mou state that only iran and oman would have to decide together how to manage the straight, the usa still tried to create alternative routes so it could restart full scale war