This is like saying shackles on black slaves in the American south in 1800s is a choice. The enslaved black people never had a choice even if they claim that they did. This is the same.
That’s a bad analogy. The n word is offensive, but not inherently oppressive. These veils are inherently oppressive. They are tools of oppression. That’s why they fit the shackles analogy that I used, it’s direct comparison. Banning these veils is like banning slaves from being shackled. Is it full liberation? Perhaps not, but it’s still a good step in the right direction. If you really don’t like the shackles analogy then circumcision comes to mind as another apt comparison. Can it be a choice? Technically. Is that actually the case for the vast majority? No. Is banning circumcision humiliating to people who are circumcised? No, the rules serve to help prevent more cases of people going through such experiences. Same logic applies here.
These women aren’t the offenders, they’re victims. The next step should be to provide them with resources to report and escape from anybody who is trying to force them to wear these oppressive clothes. You keep pretending that they’re a choice, but again, it’s not for enough to where it’s a genuine issue.
How is it wrong? Slurs are offensive because they’re derogatory, but at the end of the day they’re still words. These veils physically deprive women and girls of their freedoms. That’s a huge difference.
Not after you’ve banned them, certainly
This is like saying shackles on black slaves in the American south in 1800s is a choice. The enslaved black people never had a choice even if they claim that they did. This is the same.
More akin to saying that banning the N-word, with the explicit intent of going after black musicians and political dissidents, will end racism.
Police arresting and humiliating women who leave the house wearing the wrong clothes aren’t unshackling anyone.
That’s a bad analogy. The n word is offensive, but not inherently oppressive. These veils are inherently oppressive. They are tools of oppression. That’s why they fit the shackles analogy that I used, it’s direct comparison. Banning these veils is like banning slaves from being shackled. Is it full liberation? Perhaps not, but it’s still a good step in the right direction. If you really don’t like the shackles analogy then circumcision comes to mind as another apt comparison. Can it be a choice? Technically. Is that actually the case for the vast majority? No. Is banning circumcision humiliating to people who are circumcised? No, the rules serve to help prevent more cases of people going through such experiences. Same logic applies here.
These women aren’t the offenders, they’re victims. The next step should be to provide them with resources to report and escape from anybody who is trying to force them to wear these oppressive clothes. You keep pretending that they’re a choice, but again, it’s not for enough to where it’s a genuine issue.
That’s certainly an opinion
How is it wrong? Slurs are offensive because they’re derogatory, but at the end of the day they’re still words. These veils physically deprive women and girls of their freedoms. That’s a huge difference.