• Sarah@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    11 days ago

    The Trial - Franz Kafka The Handmaid’s Tale - Margaret Atwood Fight Club - Chuck Palahnuik Blood Meridian - Cormac McCarthy

    • myrmidex@belgae.social
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      11 days ago

      Fight Club, yes!!

      How do you rate Blood Meridian against The Road? The Road is easily in my top 5, but could not get into other McCarthy books. I might give Blood Meridian a try.

      • Sarah@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        10 days ago

        I prefer Blood Meridian but it must be said: it is not for everyone. BM is heavy on mood, imagery, description but has little in the way of plot. It’s a bit like reading someone’s dreams - undefined and bizarre but with the sense there is some important meaning or insight at its heart. I think the insight is men are bad by nature. He could be right.

        • davici@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          10 days ago

          I really like the description of blood meridian as reading someone’s dreams. I am curious how you get men are bad by nature out of it?

          • Sarah@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            edit-2
            10 days ago

            There are no “good” characters in the novel that I recall. The kid is really bad even though he is still just a kid. No one tries to guide him to the correct path. No one seems to care. Good doesn’t have a chance to exist in this novel because if it did it would immediately be destroyed by all the badness.

            I think McCarthys view is men left to their own devices are bad. Law and order and civilisation are needed for good to exist. There is no real law and I dont remember God being mentioned much either except by the preacher at the start that the Judge has killed just because he can.

            • davici@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              9 days ago

              An interesting perspective on it thank you for writing it up for me. I haven’t read McCarthys other works so I don’t know the about his views. I do think that the book is highly critical of lawfuless and civilization. The kid goes out into the Mexican desert as a scalp hunter a pseudo legal profession and quickly the gang goes from killing indians to killing Mexicans to killing whomever. I think this shows how thin the veneer of civilization really is.

              The kid is a kid and is easily mislead into a life of violence first by the army guy and later by the gang and the judge we never hear his inner monologue so we don’t really know how he feels about what he does. We do know that his heart contains some mercy for the victims of the gang the judge explicitly hunts him down for that mercy.

              I see the book a critique/satire of the western genre. I agree it explores and questions the nature evil. But I don’t think it says much about how to tame it.

                • davici@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  ·
                  5 days ago

                  You are right I’d forgotten about that. He kills a bartender for slighting him if I recall correctly. Fair enough I suppose judging him as evil for that is a fair take.

      • blueduck@piefed.social
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        11 days ago

        The Border Trilogy is fantastic. The first two books are about young men discovering themselves in the west. Book three is a nice coda, bringing them together and closing some threads. Not nearly as violent or bloody as The Road or Blood Meridian.

        No Country for Old Men is also fantastic. The movie was very faithful, the book is better but in a different way