• Clot@lemmy.zipOP
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    USA has started invading venezuela. Thats all this country has done since its inception. Invade, kill, lie.

    The day this country goes, will be a great day for humanity.

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      1 month ago

      I would not be that black and white. The USA has also done a great deal of good things. But ffs Trump and his followers need to get fucked but the rest of the population.

      • YappyMonotheist@lemmy.world
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        1 month ago

        Name one good thing we got from America that couldn’t have been done without them and that somehow balances out their pillaging and murdering around the world.

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          1 month ago

          What does “that couldn’t have been done without them” mean? That a different human could have been Einstein if Nazis murdered him? That Japan and Nazis would have eventually been beaten by someone or something else anyway? That is such a broad and hard to define “gotcha” that any argument is useless.

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            1 month ago

            The Nazis were defeated by the Soviet Union. Hitler already lost when the Americans arrived. Yes, it would probably have lasted longer, but it’s ridiculous that the US still claims credit for this today. American propaganda, that’s all.

            • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              Most US soldiers in the 1940s and 50s thanked and credited the Soviets for dying to help save Europe from Hitler. The saying is “Americans built it, British paid for it, Soviets died for it.”

              And now if you say the genuine fact, people think you’re the one who’s a victim to propaganda.

                • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                  1 month ago

                  More Soviets died than Americans or British. British paid for the weapons and ships used to win the war. America built the weapons and ships used to win the war.

                  Saying the the fact that this happened is the fact, not the saying. Context clues.