I would not be that black and white. The USA has also done a great deal of good things. But ffs Trump and his followers need to get fucked but the rest of the population.
Name one good thing we got from America that couldn’t have been done without them and that somehow balances out their pillaging and murdering around the world.
What does “that couldn’t have been done without them” mean? That a different human could have been Einstein if Nazis murdered him? That Japan and Nazis would have eventually been beaten by someone or something else anyway? That is such a broad and hard to define “gotcha” that any argument is useless.
The Nazis were defeated by the Soviet Union. Hitler already lost when the Americans arrived. Yes, it would probably have lasted longer, but it’s ridiculous that the US still claims credit for this today. American propaganda, that’s all.
Most US soldiers in the 1940s and 50s thanked and credited the Soviets for dying to help save Europe from Hitler. The saying is “Americans built it, British paid for it, Soviets died for it.”
And now if you say the genuine fact, people think you’re the one who’s a victim to propaganda.
More Soviets died than Americans or British. British paid for the weapons and ships used to win the war. America built the weapons and ships used to win the war.
Saying the the fact that this happened is the fact, not the saying. Context clues.
But it is still misleading. During Stalingrad, the decisive battle of World War II, Lend-Lease accounted for about 5 percent of Soviet production. During the Wehrmacht’s last large-scale offensive operation, the tank battle at Kursk mid 1943, Lend-Lease deliveries were still below 10 percent. It was only later that Lend-Lease accounted for 10-12 percent of military equipment. The only exception here is trucks.
Tanks: Total Soviet production: approx. 105,000, Lend-Lease tanks (USA + UK): approx. 12,000
Aircraft: Soviet production: approx. 135,000, Lend-Lease aircraft: approx. 14,000
Infantry weapons & artillery: Almost exclusively Soviet production
Some of these people are saying the US was always bad which is rubbish.
For an example of good things that were done in the past pick at random from the $2b before trump cut it from USAID.
Why should you bring up other countries when we’re discussing the US? Especially when the US is not like any other country but the center of global imperialism?
Why should you bring up other countries when we’re discussing the US?
If you’re going to say “A” is bad you need something to compare it to as a standard. So tell me - what shining beacon of freedom and altruism would you say the US is lagging behind?
I would not be that black and white. The USA has also done a great deal of good things. But ffs Trump and his followers need to get fucked but the rest of the population.
Name one good thing we got from America that couldn’t have been done without them and that somehow balances out their pillaging and murdering around the world.
What does “that couldn’t have been done without them” mean? That a different human could have been Einstein if Nazis murdered him? That Japan and Nazis would have eventually been beaten by someone or something else anyway? That is such a broad and hard to define “gotcha” that any argument is useless.
The Nazis were defeated by the Soviet Union. Hitler already lost when the Americans arrived. Yes, it would probably have lasted longer, but it’s ridiculous that the US still claims credit for this today. American propaganda, that’s all.
Most US soldiers in the 1940s and 50s thanked and credited the Soviets for dying to help save Europe from Hitler. The saying is “Americans built it, British paid for it, Soviets died for it.”
And now if you say the genuine fact, people think you’re the one who’s a victim to propaganda.
A saying is not a “genuine fact”
More Soviets died than Americans or British. British paid for the weapons and ships used to win the war. America built the weapons and ships used to win the war.
Saying the the fact that this happened is the fact, not the saying. Context clues.
But it is still misleading. During Stalingrad, the decisive battle of World War II, Lend-Lease accounted for about 5 percent of Soviet production. During the Wehrmacht’s last large-scale offensive operation, the tank battle at Kursk mid 1943, Lend-Lease deliveries were still below 10 percent. It was only later that Lend-Lease accounted for 10-12 percent of military equipment. The only exception here is trucks.
Tanks: Total Soviet production: approx. 105,000, Lend-Lease tanks (USA + UK): approx. 12,000 Aircraft: Soviet production: approx. 135,000, Lend-Lease aircraft: approx. 14,000 Infantry weapons & artillery: Almost exclusively Soviet production
For example?
Is this the level we are at now? That the USA is exclusively bad?
I mean it’s hard not to see things that way right now, saying this as an American.
Some of these people are saying the US was always bad which is rubbish.
For an example of good things that were done in the past pick at random from the $2b before trump cut it from USAID.
USAID had always been a soft power tool to further US imperialist interests.
Name anything good any other country has done then. And be sure to exclude things that are even a little self-serving.
Why should you bring up other countries when we’re discussing the US? Especially when the US is not like any other country but the center of global imperialism?
If you’re going to say “A” is bad you need something to compare it to as a standard. So tell me - what shining beacon of freedom and altruism would you say the US is lagging behind?