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    14 days ago

    I think it is a great mistake for anyone in the comments to start being China apologists just because Trump is acting like a retard.

    I think you’re all severely underestimating the shit China does. Trumps America isn’t anywhere close to being as fucked up as China is, and I say this as a Dane who is currently dealing with the severe hatred and feelings of betrayal towards our former allies.

    Let’s not start simping for China because America sucks. Let’s not do that. I only have a surface level understanding of what goes on in China, and that is still enough for me to say with confidence that current day America is still less of a hell hole by comparison.

    I wpuld rather focus the energy in Europe to make us stronger over time so that we can be our own super power and not have to lean on the other trash bin super powers out there.

    It won’t happen over night and might not even happen in my lifetime, but if we can work toward that goal, I would be happy. We have survived worse.

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        14 days ago

        If you have to ask, then it is time to read up on some basic history. Key words to use:

        Mao

        Tiananem square

        Xinjiang internment camps

        The one child policy, it’s immediate consequences and current day consequences.

        Human trafficking, sex trafficking, abductions and illegal adoptions

        Women’s rights in China

        Gay rights in China. Specifically the banning and censorship of apps like grinder and erasure of “effeminate men” in media

        China during Covid

        China human rights violations

        China freedom of speech

        Maybe some of these will give you a head start.

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          14 days ago

          Tiananmen Square was not simply a violent escalation of the Chinese state, so not sure if I’d wanna count that, and the “Xianjang Internment camps” still seem like made up bullshit by Adrian Zenz and the likes. But I didn’t simply ask what makes China bad, because I’m well aware of that, I asked what makes it worse than the US. Key words here:

          Literally every president the US ever had in the past decades

          War for almost the entire existence of the country

          ICE and their camps

          Pretty much daily school shootings and overall gun culture for that matter

          Women’s rights in the US

          Police violence

          Horrible healthcare system causing thousands of deaths every year

          Increasingly limited LGBTQ rights

          War on Drugs

          War on Terror

          Support of or direct involvement in multiple genocides

          Massive surveillance network, not just in the US, but globally

          Hundreds of military bases all across the world

          Guantanamo Bay

          Human rights violations

          Preventing people in certain countries from accessing certain much needed medications and extortion of pharmaceutical companies in other countries

          Meddling in other countries’ political environment and even killing or kidnapping democratically elected heads of states

          Creation and funding of terrorist groups and states

          Bombing mostly innocent countries to ashes and committing countless war crimes, including the use of nuclear and chemical weapons

          I’m probably still missing things…


          China overall has bad track record when it comes to everything related to all kinds of individual freedoms, but considering that the US is actually deliberately killing and torturing people to no end (at least on a much, much larger scale than China), I’d say that they are way worse than China. And again, this is no excuse for China, I just think they don’t match the cruelty of the American empire.

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            12 days ago

            You are truly lost if you think America is anywhere close to the cruelty of China. Truly. You have had Dictator wannabe Trump in office for one year and you think this is in any way comparable to the decades of oppression that the Chinese have been subjected to?

            Trump is terrible, no doubt, and I would be the first one to criticize the American welfare system, or lack thereof, but Americans have not experienced an ounce of what the Chinese people have. You can only say this if you are bad faith or entirely ignorant of the reality of the world.

            You might even be a Russian troll at this point. Absolutely divorced from reality.

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              Most of the points you made were about lack of individual freedoms, which I agree is bad, but doesn’t come close to actually killing hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people during the past decades like the US did. And why do you keep bringing up Trump? I didn’t mention him even once in my comments. I don’t care about him, he is a symptom of a much larger issue, not the cause. I’m not just talking about the oppression and killings of people within US borders, but also outside of them, and that’s where China doesn’t even compare to the US.

              If “Trump” and “welfare system” are the only relevant points you got from everything I listed, I’m not sure that I’m the one acting in bad faith. It seems like you purposefully don’t even consider all the atrocities of the US outside of their own borders, but why should you, after all they’re just some stupid foreigners, right?

              Everyone who is even slightly critical of the Western world is a Russian troll, I know. I don’t think I’m the one who is acting in bad faith and divorced from reality.

              [Addendum]: Something I think you didn’t mention yet is the amount of people executed by the Chinese state, even for the simplest “crimes” like possession of drugs. That’s about the worst I can think of about China, and it’s one aspect that I would actually call a real atrocity that is worse than in the US. But the death penalty shouldn’t exist at all, so the US doesn’t gain any sympathy points from me in this case either.