As an American, I wish Greenland and company the best. You are the greatest line of defense against America’s malice.
It’s genuinely somewhat surprising, but also very much pleasant to see the EU and friends uniting when the American Empire finally stops pretending and openly shows its true colours. I was betting we’d all just let the nazis do whatever they wanted. Love to have been wrong here.
Looks like maybe we can be strong when we want to. From the bottom of my heart I hope we can keep this up, stick together and show the billionaire pedophiles that their time is over.
Dismantle the empire and bring everyone responsible for its atrocities to justice. No exceptions, no gentle treatment.
Great headline but apparently it’s the great total of 13 soldiers.
Which is enough for the purpose. Denmark invited to come together and talk about ways to support Greenland. So they are not there to defend (yet), but to survey and get an idea of the conditions.
This, and it’s also a form of deterrence in itself. It means that if the US attacks Greenland, they’ll potentially have to kill not just Danish, but also German, French etc soldiers, permanently fucking up relations with those countries beyond repair.
I can already hear Merz: Yes 12 german soldiers died in this very complex situation. But, now is not the time to overreact. The americans are very reliable partners and we should not endanger this relationship just because a view soldiers were killed by accident.
That practically doubled the population
Its small enough numbers that its symbolic for defence, but attacking so many countries militaries will be an act of war against the EU and draw all of NATO and the EU into a war. Multiple countries in this are also nuclear powers. I really wish the USA would see sense, but its fallen to fascist rule and once again fascism is bringing enormous wars to the world and this one is going to be much deadlier than those previous. Lets hope the orangutan decides its not worth it like he has with Iran.
It wouldn’t draw the NATO to war. It would be the end of NATO.
You think a NATO without the US could not exist at all?
Well, ‘NATO’ as defined today can’t exist if any NATO member attacked another one, just from how the organization is defined as it is, that wasn’t a possibility it was defined to be capable of handling.
A “just like NATO, but not specifically NATO” that excludes the US I could imagine forming soon enough for it to be essentially an equivalent thing.
But knowing politicians, they had better have drafts of what that specifically should be ready to go, because politicians might just take forever to settle details of what should be a straightforward arrangement. For example, reworking it so that removing a member is actually defined, and that accepting a new member does not require perfectly unanimous agreement.
I would imagine NATO would exclude the USA and remain as it is. IIRC, Trump spoke of leaving NATO in the past as well, so he’d be happy to sell it as his own.
I assume such efforts have not been made yet because the USA remains an important member on paper, because of its military, as long as it has not taken that action yet, and because politicians hope that Trump’s term will end with a shift back to cooperative politics.
I think it would just break down in THIS event: No country would want to stand against US for an icy island that isn’t their own. So one after the other would just let Greenland fall to the US, and that would practically mean the NATO is done - because there would be proof that the treaty doesn’t help in a real case.
Invading Greenland is overwhelmingly unpopular among Americans. Trump invading Greenland might even trigger a US civil war.
Of the things that would trigger a Civil War, I think Greenland is low on the list. Wildly unpopular but not the existential domestic threat that would trigger the people to go hot. ICE and domestic military deployment, particularly if he declares no elections, that has potential, but no foreign event is going to sway the domestic population that much, only domestic events have that strong an effect. That sort of thing can matter at the ballot box, but isn’t enough to make people go to the ammo box.
Maybe you get some European powers to conduct clandestine operations against key US leadership, maybe someone like Stephen Miller gets assassinated by a foreign power, I don’t know. More likely, they make moves that royally screw the US over economically. But I don’t think a civil war or direct military conflict with a foreign power is in the cards over Greenland.
