• Schmoo@slrpnk.net
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    2 days ago

    I watched the video of the abuse happening on stream.

    You watched a clip of Hasan’s dog catching her dewclaw on the edge of her bed and yelping, and Hasan being kind of rude about it because he was in the middle of a heated rant. You only think he used a shock collar because a bunch of drama slop-tubers made ‘analysis’ videos claiming to prove that he did with about the same rigor as right-wing ‘transvestigators’ claiming every school shooter is trans.

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      You watched a clip of Hasan’s dog catching her dewclaw on the edge of her bed and yelping, and Hasan being kind of rude about it because he was in the middle of a heated rant.

      He started yelling at her when she started moving, not when she yelped. He keeps her as fucking set dressing behind him and yells when she moves. Whether he actually shocked her or not is secondary to that behavior.

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        He keeps her as fucking set dressing behind him and yells when she moves.

        You saw him do something once in a clip (yelling the ‘place’ command at Kaya when she gets up), didn’t understand why, and assumed he does that every time she moves without bothering to check yourself despite there being hundreds of hours of footage of him not doing that.

        He is making her lay on the elevated bed instead of the hardwood floor so she doesn’t develop hip problems, which are common in large dog breeds. He’s fine with her getting up and leaving, and she often does (again, hundreds of hours of footage), just not with her laying down on the hardwood floor, which is what he probably thought she was doing in that clip.

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          13 hours ago

          You saw him do something once in a clip

          Something you straight up fucking lied about in the previous comment and then immediately shifted the goalpost.

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            You literally shifted the goalpost from “Hasan shocked his dog” to “Hasan uses his dog as set dressing by preventing her from moving,” and you’re putting it on me because I shifted in response. Also, what lie? Nothing in my comments contradict one another, they’re just talking about different parts of the clip because I was following your own goalposts.

      • Fancy Greg 🌈@lemmy.zip
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        idk if we’re allowed to post links to YT vid in the comments, but there’s a dude called Mujin who collected all the proof that Hasan is in fact abusing his dog, and put it in a single video.

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      No no, we should all scream and argue about Hasan’s stupid fucking dog while people are getting executed in the street.

      This shit is why I don’t identify with leftism in America anymore. The complete, willful discarding of power and political capital for the sake of performatism and identity politics. I will still fight fascism to my last breath but I hate you fuckwits out there who think you’re going to win updoots while standing in line for the “showers.”

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        I would prefer not to have to talk about this, but this is part of how the alt-right has gained cultural hegemony in the US (at least on the internet). I’m not going to spend all my time arguing about it, but when I see someone repeating disinformation about a high-profile leftist commentator I’m going to challenge it because it harms the ability of the left to organize.

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          I give modest pushback against these edgy kids trying to earn social credit for pushing back on high-visibility targets, but I also don’t want to get dragged down into these absolutely brain-damaged arguments like, who tweeted the “R-slur” five years ago or if someone’s dog made a noise. It’s actual destruction to our future to allow this to distract us, and most of the time it’s completely manufactured. There are armies of people out there prowling the internet for ways to drive wedges between us socially. Not a lie, not a conspiracy, actual fact.

          At the end of the day, if there’s a media personality you can’t stand, you can in fact just not watch them.

    • Sarah Valentine (she/her)@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      You should let scientists know you’ve developed telepathy and can determine what someone else has or hasn’t seen without being told. I’m sure they’d be fascinated. I’m not.