A few years ago, Amazon chairman Jeff Bezos revealed how he thinks of local PC hardware as antiquated, ready to be replaced by cloud options from companies like AWS and Azure.

Bucha Bull to me.

  • TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com
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    2 months ago

    What a fucking joke that would be on US American networks.

    We are ranked like 30th in the world for bandwidth. No fiber dropped to the curb but the billionaires. And shit slow 20th century wireless speeds with technical acumen that we see today in Verizon’s ongoing 8 hour outage.

    Bezos is so out of touch it is clown-like and stupid.

    They want a data center heavy world but have no fucking pipeline to get data in and out for the rest of us.

    What a human dildo.

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      2 months ago

      Bezos is so out of touch it is stupid.

      Is he out of touch or has he just recognized that 50% of the economic activity is already from the top 10% of the population?

      I get the feeling the wealthy have just written off the bottom 90% of society and don’t actually give a flying fuck if anything works for us or not. He knows his core sales will go to people who do have fiber at their doorstep.

      Maybe we’re the ones out of touch thinking they plan on having a place for us in this world at all.

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        2 months ago

        Even Ford, piece of utter feculence he was, understood that if you gave people money and time to spend it they’ll give it right back to you and everyone gets to come up together.

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          2 months ago

          That was a PR stunt. Wages were being raised anyway, he just preempted what he knew was coming to make himself look good

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            Next you’re gonna tell me that Ford didn’t actually invent the weekend, but was pressured by unions.

            Or that tipped wages aren’t meant to let the employees get a higher wage than they could at a fixed wage, but instead only benefit the business.

            You and your crazy conspiracy theories. Now, if you’re done being wrong, I have a bridge to purchase.

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          2 months ago

          Censoring parts of gameplay as you play would be very impressive, btw. Not in a good way, but impressive, like when I first found out about ISP replacing/adding ads on http pages

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      2 months ago

      I had to sign up for DSL this week in Frankfurt, DE as my neighborhood didn’t have cable or fiber internet. Don’t think that we’re gonna be cloud-ready any time in the next 50 years. DSL. Frankfurt. Major city.

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      2 months ago

      Can we not pretend the problem is solely performance based? People keep doing this with generative AI and it keeps resulting in “oh shit, ghibli AI is so awesome”.

      Especially since… can you watch a twitch stream? Congrats, you can stream a desktop. Even back with Stadia it was very much viable to play games like AssCreed over streaming and have a very comparable experience to it being local. And stuff like Geforce Now actually work REALLY well.

      The issue shouldn’t be “can you make this perform well enough I want to use it”. It should be about ownership and the implication for… everything if all “personal computers” exist solely in a data center and all documents exist solely in The Cloud and so forth. Preservation of anything becomes nigh impossible and you suddenly have to pay a monthly fee to ever see your kid’s pictures again.

      • ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip
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        2 months ago

        Having tried to play games over a gigabit connection, no. You really can’t. Latency is not something you can just handwaved away.

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          I don’t know what to say. Plenty of folk, myself included, have had no issues with the majority or games. And stuff like geforce now is quite successful

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        2 months ago

        As someone who remotes home frequently, no, the experience is not quite right. Packet drop and latency cause lots of input errors and misclicks. Sometimes the local internet decides not to carry your packets, and sometimes even connecting over vpn doesn’t.

        You do not want a cloud desktop. You want a physical desktop and supplement with cloud services you can’t run locally.

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          Again, plenty of folk, self included, have no issues with streaming from a datacenter and geforce now is quite successful.

          Understand that the codecs make a huge difference. But the actual inputs are literally bytes per minute of data. MAYBE kilobytes if you are particularly good at Starcraft

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            24 days ago

            That means nothing if your latency spikes or some packets drop at the moment you need to click and not hold, or move the mouse precisely and drop.

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        2 months ago

        People will surrender all ownership if you can provide more content more cheaper and conveniently, ownership is much lower on most people’s priority than convenience

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          2 months ago

          And a big factor in trying to combat/delay that is to not frame it as “This doesn’t even work”. Because then it is literally one free trial away from being normalized for like 95% of the audience.

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          2 months ago

          Eh. Some stuff does make sense to centralize.

          Like, the concept of a thin client (what these basically are “close enough” to) is a really good one. They drastically simplify security and costs for corporate environments. And, even in the before times, it might genuinely make sense to just pay for a month/hundred hours of GFN if you wanted to play the latest AAA game rather than upgrading your five year old computer that handles everything else you play perfectly.

          The bigger issue being that it now increasingly makes sense to pay for years/thousands of hours of GFN because of how broken the everything is. And the vultures (like Amazon and nVidia) smell the decay.

          And… I didn’t want to crap on the other person too much but I do think p2p is why so many people think this can’t work. There is a big difference between streaming from your computer over starbucks wifi and connecting to a major data center. And there are also arguments for power and ecological impact but that becomes a MUCH bigger mess full of bad actors and incomplete comparisons.