• SabinStargem@lemmy.today
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    5 months ago

    Canada and Mexico should make a mutual defense pact. Being pinched by land wars would make things much rougher for the US.

  • VinnyDaCat@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    It’s inevitable. No one should trust the U.S. right now, and countries should be attempting to strengthen relations with each other to deal with the fallout that is bound to occur.

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    5 months ago

    Okay, here’s what’s actually happening since nobody seems to get the picture.

    The Arctic has been melting in recent years, opening up areas that were never accessible before for resource extraction (oil, minerals). This is also why nobody is doing shit about global warming, because the opportunity for profit is too huge.

    Canada has claimed ownership over the Arctic and its resources. Greenland/Denmark has claimed ownership as well. America has claimed these areas are in international waters and not ownable by anybody, so it’s a free for all. But they know that’s a weak position.

    If USA takes Greenland, they take the Arctic. That’s it, that’s all.

    Bonus: it’s a distraction from Trump’s name being all over the Epstein files. Although I’m not sure why he cares so much; his supporters certainly don’t. Like he said, he could rape a child in the middle of 5th avenue and he wouldn’t lose any votes.

    • CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
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      … The arctic is huge, like continent-sized. If they take Greenland, they’ve taken Greenland.

      This is also why nobody is doing shit about global warming, because the opportunity for profit is too huge.

      That’s also not quite so spooky. Ask the average Joe how much of his salary and lifestyle he’s willing to give up to prevent it. The answer is almost nothing. We haven’t, because we don’t wanna.

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          5 months ago

          Well, for one thing, a car is a luxury in most of the world. Ask how people feel about riding on busses. Sometimes the answer is that they can’t for some reason, but usually it’s just that they prefer a private vehicle and no timetables.

          For another, a good potion of the population isn’t actually struggling, and has Amazon or Temu stopping by to deliver dumb stuff from China all the time. Like, that entire sector, along with meal delivery, is all about spending surplus income. I’m not talking about the bottom quarter here.

              • RaskolnikovsAxe@lemmy.ca
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                I don’t have serious discussions with anyone who sincerely believes in American exceptionalism, just like I don’t have serious discussions with fascists. I am particularly disinclined to have any discussions with an American fascist who clearly has no respect for my country or the former alliance we had with the US. My country has literally bled for you ungrateful pricks, among many other contributions over decades, and I can’t think of a single thing you’ve done but bully us.

                Discussing with your camp is never in good faith. You don’t believe in words, and there is no evidence or argument that is acceptable. It’s a waste of time to bother. Thankfully I believe you’re not representative of good Americans, who seem to have had enough of this bullshit.

                By the way you should know your insults mean nothing to me. I’ve been called worse things by better people than you (I’m sure that’s a low bar to clear), and I’ve seen who you look up to. Get back on your knees for your orange daddy, maybe this time he’ll finish in your mouth.

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    5 months ago

    Am Canadian. I fully believe that within the next year he will be openly talking about invading. Within a couple of could well be done. The guerrilla war will go on for ever though, you can take Canada but you will have a very hard time keeping it.

    • tea@lemmy.today
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      Am American. We (the broad majority) don’t want Canada. or Greenland. or Venezuela. Any of this fascist shit. I’m so fucking sick of this. I want to go back to politics being boring-ish and about deciding what taxes will and won’t pay for and having actual friends whom we aren’t actively bullying. I wish this scenario were laughable, but it’s not.

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        That doesn’t help at all. We are complicit.

        No citizenship ever has been in a better position to prevent their government from doing horrible things, and yet we do nothing. We wring our hands and aren’t willing to hurt, let alone die, for what is morally right. The small arms in this country are more than enough to overwhelm the entire place. We have the numbers and the weapons and yes some would have to die. This isn’t even special though, all throughout history people have died for principles, it’s just… we don’t have any.

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      … and the American people are feckless sheep

      PS: although I must recognize that, since the murder of Renee Good, it does seem that some are waking up

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          I think it shows a strange effect about American geography. It’s really hard to organize a meaningful, resilient, and camera-worthy resistance because we’re so spread out. It’s all about congregating at big cities, like LA, Portland or Minneapolis.

          Like, if British people wanted to protest and resist in the streets, they go to London. All of them. It’s accessible. Americans can’t do that with Washington DC.

          But I’m in Kansas City, and while our No Kings protests have had not-insignificant turnouts, it’s not as easy or impactful because we had three protest sites across two-state suburban area. Can we get that many Kansas Citians to flock to Minneapolis to disrupt ICE ops? No, not really. It’s why all the major protest and ICE disruptions happen in the biggest cities of the “blue”-est states.

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            It’s also winter in Minneapolis, it’d be like Europeans traveling to Norway to protest. America us a lot bigger than any single European country.