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    18 hours ago

    If they had a little awareness, they’d notice how closely these fictional atrocities committed by foreign powers mirror their firsthand knowledge of atrocities committed by their own governments.

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    Today I was told that the massacre of peaceful protesters by the ruthless Iranian regime was just like Tankman Square.

    And they’re right, just not in the way they think.

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    blood pressure is rising whenever I see the libs post the tank man image. Even if you took the liberal narrative to heart there’s basically no comparative worth between these two moments in history

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    19 hours ago

    That one guy dying in Tiannamen Square is literally the only thing most americans know about china.

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      Full tankman video where the tankers go to lengths to avoid harming him, he’s able to climb on the tank and then walk away with no repercussions:

      https://youtu.be/FaojdRThXbY

      https://old.reddit.com/r/minnesota/comments/1qmndyy/minnesota_12426_armored_vehicle_attempting_to/ video of American state armoured vehicles running over protestors in the recent protest against the state murdering innocent protesters

      And some other examples(out of many) of US state forces running over protestors in the last couple of years:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiKv85jUUaQ

      https://youtu.be/Td4EIRhmKyM

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        WHOAH whoah whoah whoah, whoah, wait a minute… okay, so, uh… okay, let me see if I got this. When you say,

        He didn’t die. The tanks stopped.

        What you REALLY mean is,

        He did die. The tanks didn’t stop.

        Is this right???

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        16 hours ago

        The story I’ve always been told, even in our schools, is that they took him away and shot him and charged his family for the bullet. Was he not executed?

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          my school didn’t even bother to teach that the event happened, at most they might have had a poster of the photo up somewhere, like a motivational poster or w/e.

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          So now that you know they had absolutely no basis for that story, hopefully you will be more skeptical next time about atrocity propaganda about our “geopolitical enemies”.

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          I don’t think anyone even knows his name, let alone his fate. It’s probably an assumption someone made and spread around. Like how I was never told his fate and we were left to assume he got run over by the tank when we were told about that incident, and it turns out that’s not true either.

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            Oh wow. You’re right. You’d think the Americans would have found out the dudes name as they lionized this fucking guy. He probably DID get executed or imprisoned, but the way just outright lies are taught in our Canadian schools even is disturbing as fuck to me.

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              He probably DID get executed or imprisoned,

              Why do you think this? there’s no evidence of it, your assumptions are based on vibes garnered through op-eds in billionaire owned media and Hollywood movies not in objective fact and reality

              Are you still of the opinion that China is more ‘authoritarian’ than the US?

              Despite the US dropping 46 bombs a day on average and China not being in a war for 46 years.

              And the existence of actual videos and hard evidence of the US state murdering peaceful protestors over the last few months and years, and the closest comparison you can find for China is a person not getting killed by state forces 46 years ago? or how about the recent Hong Kong protests where 200,000 to 500,000 people protested against the state for months and not a single one was killed by Chinese state forces?

              The power of propaganda truly is astonishing

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                No, I am very much pro China and very much of the opinion that the US is far more authoritarian and Evil than anyone can claim post revolution China ever has been. Y’all made a lot of annoying and ridiculous assumptions based on one wishy washy comment. I am very much an anti American communist.

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                  Lol you’re so “anti Amerikan communist” that you’ve repeatedly ignored other comrades educating you while also doubling down on the Amerikan propaganda.

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              He probably DID get executed or imprisoned

              He was some random guy who got pulled away by bystanders in a period before mass surveillance was possible and when everyone involved was really fucking tired of all the fighting and wanted to go home and rest. What racist brainworm is piloting your body to make you say shit like “he was probably executed?” What evidence leads you to that conclusion? Check yourself.

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                14 hours ago

                the vast majority of people in china are executed, often many times a month, so it’s just simple math

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                I mean, if they did catch him, it’d make a whole lot of sense to remove any possibility of him further embarrassing the state by becoming a western propaganda mouthpiece, and you’ve got to remember this was a very extreme, near-existential crisis where radical measures were taken in response. Other leaders were also executed too, though after trials as far as I’m aware.

                Not saying it happened, and we’ll never know either way, but it’s not a completely outlandish idea that the MSS would just off him had they found him.

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                14 hours ago

                Assuming there could have been consequences for breaking the law is not “racist”.

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                  Why isn’t the penalty for blocking traffic a fine? What about community service, or probation? He’s obviously not part of the protests or the militants, since they are several blocks away from Tiannamen Square. Why does your mind immediately jump to execution?

                  You know deep in your heart why. Confronting racist things you were taught doesn’t make you a bad person—introspection is good!

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                  By what mechanism do you propose he was found and executed? The guy in the tank draws a masterpiece from memory and then the cops go door to door throughout the entire city to find this guy who… climbed on a tank? Really?

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              He probably DID get executed or imprisoned

              And you think that because…? It seems your anticommunist education is still working as intended.