I also disagree that everything valuable can be bought. And also, not everything of value has unlimited time to be reached
For example, maybe you value the natural world in ways that climate change and other human factors are threatening to destroy. Sure with enough time you could get infinite money or influence or whatever to solve the problem, but by then it will be far too late.
With infinite time, you’ll survive past the climate change issues, or perhaps even manage to elevate yourself to the level of supreme ruler with unlimited wealth and have the other billionaires heads on pikes.
I think you’re REALLY underselling unlimited time.
Yes I get that, but again, this is very focused on YOU. What about your friends and family who will suffer from the reduced value of the world. What about the general population?
With unlimited time you could theoretically make a perfect world for yourself, one day. But it does nothing for things that are valuable now.
Don’t get me wrong, unlimited time would be an incredible power, I’m just against the idea that there is nothing of value besides things you could also achieve with unlimited time.
Yes I get that, but again, this is very focused on YOU. What about your friends and family who will suffer from the reduced value of the world. What about the general population?
I don’t comprehend how that is focused on me. Anyone save someone with cognitive impairment with unlimited time would progress. They could put $25 in a bank account and check back in 200 years.
who will suffer from the reduced value of the world.
I don’t understand your take on this either. Time creates whatever value is needed. The rest of the world will continue on as it does now, the scope of whomsoever value was extended would extend exponentially. just because one person is granted unlimited time doesn’t take anything away from anyone else, they just become capable of more production throughout their timeline.
With unlimited time you could theoretically make a perfect world for yourself, one day. But it does nothing for things that are valuable now.
That’s the whole point of this exercise, by choosing unlimited time, now is no different. 100 years would be slightly changed. Think bloodless vampire, not Methuselah
I’m just against the idea that there is nothing of value besides things you could also achieve with unlimited time.
Again it’s not that everything else is null, it’s that the power created to the unlimited timeline makes all the other value inconsequential.
I don’t mean focused on you as a specific individual, I mean it only benefits the one picking unlimited time, it does nothing for the rest of the world (which I argue contains lots of value) right now.
Let me give a specific example. Let’s say someone’s loved one is sick with cancer. By choosing “unlimited money” or maybe “unlimited medical knowledge” or “unlimited influence”, they could probably cure the cancer, or at least greatly extend their loved ones lifetime. If they choose unlimited time, then they could not. So are you saying the value of that love one’s life is inconsequential?
Or another, maybe you value human lives, and therefore it would be valuable for all wars to end. By picking “unlimited negotiation skill” or something else, you would be able to almost immediately end any war, and perhaps solve war in general. With infinite time, maybe in the far far future you could achieve this, but what about all the lives lost until then? Are they all inconsequential?
Time is the only thing of value. Everything else is just managing that one resource.
This is a very self centred view on value. Do you not think that there are things that have value, regardless of how much time you have?
With time, you can make money.
With unlimited time, you can become an artisan in any scope you wish.
All other values are, the long way around, derived from time.
I also disagree that everything valuable can be bought. And also, not everything of value has unlimited time to be reached
For example, maybe you value the natural world in ways that climate change and other human factors are threatening to destroy. Sure with enough time you could get infinite money or influence or whatever to solve the problem, but by then it will be far too late.
With infinite time, you’ll survive past the climate change issues, or perhaps even manage to elevate yourself to the level of supreme ruler with unlimited wealth and have the other billionaires heads on pikes.
I think you’re REALLY underselling unlimited time.
Yes I get that, but again, this is very focused on YOU. What about your friends and family who will suffer from the reduced value of the world. What about the general population?
With unlimited time you could theoretically make a perfect world for yourself, one day. But it does nothing for things that are valuable now.
Don’t get me wrong, unlimited time would be an incredible power, I’m just against the idea that there is nothing of value besides things you could also achieve with unlimited time.
I don’t comprehend how that is focused on me. Anyone save someone with cognitive impairment with unlimited time would progress. They could put $25 in a bank account and check back in 200 years.
I don’t understand your take on this either. Time creates whatever value is needed. The rest of the world will continue on as it does now, the scope of whomsoever value was extended would extend exponentially. just because one person is granted unlimited time doesn’t take anything away from anyone else, they just become capable of more production throughout their timeline.
That’s the whole point of this exercise, by choosing unlimited time, now is no different. 100 years would be slightly changed. Think bloodless vampire, not Methuselah
Again it’s not that everything else is null, it’s that the power created to the unlimited timeline makes all the other value inconsequential.
I don’t mean focused on you as a specific individual, I mean it only benefits the one picking unlimited time, it does nothing for the rest of the world (which I argue contains lots of value) right now.
Let me give a specific example. Let’s say someone’s loved one is sick with cancer. By choosing “unlimited money” or maybe “unlimited medical knowledge” or “unlimited influence”, they could probably cure the cancer, or at least greatly extend their loved ones lifetime. If they choose unlimited time, then they could not. So are you saying the value of that love one’s life is inconsequential?
Or another, maybe you value human lives, and therefore it would be valuable for all wars to end. By picking “unlimited negotiation skill” or something else, you would be able to almost immediately end any war, and perhaps solve war in general. With infinite time, maybe in the far far future you could achieve this, but what about all the lives lost until then? Are they all inconsequential?