• Pajonk@szmer.info
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    13 days ago

    How you want to choose your new leaders, how do you want to make decisions? There’s not a lot of freedom in authoritarian.

    If through the democracy, voting, discussions, then you system is opposite of authoritarian, it’s a direct democracy and it’s somewhere in the anarchy, syndicalism area (I like that idea).

    If power will be given to group of people, how you want to choose them, how you want to take power from them after some time. Power corrupt people, and this is leading to authoritarian state.

    And giving a lot of power to group of people creates new rulling class. How do you want to prevent it?

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      13 days ago

      All forms of government and all forms of state are inherently authoritarian. You live under authoritarianism right now…

      What matters is who is doing the authoritarianism. China has figured this out and I find their political model to be favourable.

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        China well known for state capitalism. Lack of basic human rights, genocides, and so on?

        Dude. You know that in china regular person have almost sero power of what’s going on?

        You cannot call a country free and rulled by the people, when there are laogai, hundreds or more of them.

        Also china is closed ally of north Korea, totalitarian regime, with small rulling class and starving people.

        China is just better in capitalism than neoliberal countries, but this is not make it great.

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          lol genocide? Don’t tell me you fell for Uyghur “genocide” propaganda in 2026… You got some work to do still my friend.

          Lack of human rights, where everyone gets a home, free healthcare, education, affordable healthy food, and nobody dies in the street. Even “vagrants” that are unemployed are taken care of.

          Compared to America…

          You will literally never see the above image in China. I bet if told you this was China and these were Uyghur Muslims you would outraged.

          People of China absolutely have power. Corporations are required to have 5 year plans that provably better the country and its citizens. Corporations even have credit scores to keep them in check, while America only subjects its citizens to a similar system.

          In America you are free to die. That’s it.

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            13 days ago

            China good because USA is collapsing?

            Nice whataboutism.

            Of course let’s ignore laogai, tianamen massacre, lack of basic freedoms, lack of free media and press, tack of basic democracy.

            Also we can talk about working conditions, but please don’t do whataboutism again. There are plenty of inside videos and articles like this one https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jun/18/foxconn-life-death-forbidden-city-longhua-suicide-apple-iphone-brian-merchant-one-device-extract

            Of course our anti freedom supporters of state capitalism and rulling class will pretend that one party Central government and rilling class is a good thing because neoliberal country like USA is turning into shit.

            Btw.maybe you can compare working condition of state capitalist china to way more socialist country like Norway or Sweden?