USA slowly changing into country like Russia, Izrael or China.

It was easy to predict that giving all the power to small group of oligarchs will end up like that. What’s next, complete removal of independent media or no more elections.

USA is not a democracy, two party system and oligarchs did it, techno feudalism it’s the future.

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Basically every single economist who was not far far right wing/liberal, said that giving all the power to the small group of people, and removing society control over economy will fail, and it will create ultra wealth class, people without any morals, any empathy towards rest of the people. You don’t have to be a anarchist, socialist, communist, also people like Adam Smith, wrote the same thing.

From what i know, only very radical groups like Chicago Boys, promoted the model that we have right now.

It’s like with climate change. Every specialist, every one who knows the basics, is saying that you cannot pollute the world so much, and pretend that humans are not killing the ecosystem.

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Chinese imperialistic propaganda?

Nice.

Maybe don’t say anything about new rulling class, don’t say anything about tiananmen massacre, and how rulling class is using regular people to work in a very bad conditions manufacturing goods for western multinational corporations.

USA is shit but China is no better.

It doesn’t matter if a country is authoritarian or democratic

It matters a lot. Authoritarian is evil from the beginning. If you have authoritarianism, then you’re giving the power to a small group of people, therefore creating new rulling class. And as we know from the history, a lot of power in a hands of few, always corrupts.

It doesn’t matter who is your lord, or how is your master is presenting himself. Doesn’t matter if he is saying that god send him here, or his parents were kings, or he earn tons of money thanks to other people work, or he is a “working class” hero who now want to control other workers and people.

I’m not saying that i’m democrat, but it’s still better than oligarchy authoritarianism. Democracy gives you chance to change that, to at least change who is making decision, who is in power. That’s why oligarchs wants to take control of democracy, by creating one or two party system (China, USA, CCCP), or they will take control over media, and destroy independent journalism so no one knows what’s going on (Russia).

Also add this for Russia, China, North Korea, and historically most of european countries.

What’s the common part? That this is not war between nations, or races, it’s a class war. Creating ruling class always ends like this. Too much power in a hands of a too few people, authoritarian regime, and this is a recipe for a crisis.

So we’re discussing imperialism, and how does it look around the world? Nice.

You can also add Russia, and them there are a lot of good examples of what some European countries did in Africa and so on.

China good because USA is collapsing?

Nice whataboutism.

Of course let’s ignore laogai, tianamen massacre, lack of basic freedoms, lack of free media and press, tack of basic democracy.

Also we can talk about working conditions, but please don’t do whataboutism again. There are plenty of inside videos and articles like this one https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jun/18/foxconn-life-death-forbidden-city-longhua-suicide-apple-iphone-brian-merchant-one-device-extract

Of course our anti freedom supporters of state capitalism and rulling class will pretend that one party Central government and rilling class is a good thing because neoliberal country like USA is turning into shit.

Btw.maybe you can compare working condition of state capitalist china to way more socialist country like Norway or Sweden?

China well known for state capitalism. Lack of basic human rights, genocides, and so on?

Dude. You know that in china regular person have almost sero power of what’s going on?

You cannot call a country free and rulled by the people, when there are laogai, hundreds or more of them.

Also china is closed ally of north Korea, totalitarian regime, with small rulling class and starving people.

China is just better in capitalism than neoliberal countries, but this is not make it great.

How you want to choose your new leaders, how do you want to make decisions? There’s not a lot of freedom in authoritarian.

If through the democracy, voting, discussions, then you system is opposite of authoritarian, it’s a direct democracy and it’s somewhere in the anarchy, syndicalism area (I like that idea).

If power will be given to group of people, how you want to choose them, how you want to take power from them after some time. Power corrupt people, and this is leading to authoritarian state.

And giving a lot of power to group of people creates new rulling class. How do you want to prevent it?

How we can get there? How we can create true socialist country, without oligarchs, state capitalism or authoritarian emperor?

Oligarchs are the problem. They are creating the system, where small group of people have all the power.

If you look in to the history, it was always like that. They would change the name of the system, but it works the same way. From monarchy to religious regimes, from capitalism to other authoritarian regimes. From time to time they will use left wing slogans i.e. Nazis was pretending to be socialists.

Look where’s the power. Who has it. If it’s in a hands of a small group, you’re fucked.

And where is the love for authoritarian regimes, oligarchs and hate for democracy?