• mrdown@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    What Palestinian rights by international law do you mean? UNSC resolution 242 doesn’t grant the so called „right of return“ to all descendants of Palestinians for example.

    UN General Assembly Resolution 194 give Palestinians that right . Funny how Palestinian right of return is your problem rather than Israel Law of return which allow any Jewish person, their children, grandchildren, and spouses to move to Israel and become citizens and even to occupied land.

    There were numerous rejections of peace deals by Palestinians and Arabs. Peel commission, UN Portion Plan of 1948, Khartoum resolution, Camp David, Taba, and others.

    Not a single one granted all right international laws give them. East Jerusalem, all of the west bank and gaza are considered Palestinians , the right to have an army to defend itself and the full sovereignty of the part. Arafat refused for that reason not the bullshit you are saying

    Israel should end the occupation of the West Bank and settlements. However they have legitimate security interests. Israel needs a neighbor that agrees to peace and non aggression. Leaving unilaterally hasn’t worked in Gaza. At the moment Israelis don‘t see a chance for this. October 7th has diminished the small peace camp further.

    They don’t the end of occupation is unconditional. Israel as the settler colonial power and military superiority do not need any security guarantees. It is Palestinians who should have the right to security guarantees

    Israel needs a neighbor that agrees to peace and non aggression Israel as the settler colonial power is the one who should agree to genuine peace and non aggression and should abandon the idea that the whole land belong to them and if they give some part of the land back that it is because Israel is good . The Palestinians authority recognize Israel and collaborate for them. How Israel thanks them? By building even more colonies by terrorist settlers

    More Palestinians have died in Gaza, than all deaths combined (including Israel‘s) over the last 100 years before. Gaza had an operational international airport with construction of a harbor underway, was ruled by Palestinians, no IDF presence in the late 1990s. Arafat decided to throw all that away when he launched the second intifada. Just because he wasn’t able to compromise and sell that to his people.

    Every single death in Gaza is israel responsibility as the settler colonial power . It is some twisted logic that israel can destroy that Airport just because of the second intifada which also started because of Israel refusing to give all Palestinians right back under international law . The biggest victims of the second intifada is again Palestinians . Israel used human shield during the second intifada and deliberately killed innocent civilians.

    Israel has severe restrictions seven in the 90’s on Gaza

    The comparison to Ukraine and Zelenskyy is weak because the situation is so different. Ukraine hasn’t lost the war yet, but is holding on. For how many years that’s worth doing is a good question.

    Your logic is weak and scummy. Ukraine is the occupied , Palestinians is the occupied. Russia is the settler colonial power , israel is the settler colonial power . It is exactly the same goddamn thing. Even Israel and Russia rhetoric are the same bullshit : the security excuse while continuing building colonies in the west bank and Crimea, the idea that Ukrainians and Palestinians distinct identity do not exists etc

    When someone lose the war international laws do not grant sovereignty over those land to the winner even if the loser started it and international laws grant right to resistance to the occupied and by resistance I do not mean killing innocent civilians unlike you who use excuses to justify Palestinians mass murder , genocide and settler colonialism