There is a difference yes, equating the two allows the people who are less justified and also currently doing things to get away with more than I think you’re realizing. I’m also pointing out that that is basically the main strategy for people who support Trump right now, pretend the bad things Democrats have done are basically exactly the same level of bad as this straight up fucking evil bullshit fascism we are seeing. I’m simply saying that equating everything and calling it all the same amount of bad is not productive and allows the worst to become more normalized than they would otherwise. I’m not justifying anything bad that any Democratic president did, just saying that we need to have gray areas here and recognize some level of tiers of evil, not just pretend that somehow Obama and Trump are the same person.
Ok, point out the material difference between war crimes conducted by obama and trump. “Decorum” or “justifications” don’t count as material differences.
trump is worse on many other topics, from outright fascism in the US to openly supporting fascists abroad to cutting USAID and such, but in terms of military action this administration is mostly just following the long-established bipartisan war crime traditions.
For support for fascism, look no further than Truman (D) presiding over Operation Paperclip which collaborated with the Vatican to save many Nazis and relocate them all over the US and South America, give them new identies, jobs, money, and protection.
I’m not saying D are all paragons, in fact fuck much of what they have done, and fuck them for being beholden to the rich, fuck them for a bunch of other stuff besides, but there was more genuine intent for good than this absolute filth fascism horseshit. Lefties are supposed to be the side of the spectrum that can actually parse differing levels of evil, but it seems more like many of us want to make perfect the enemy of good
The US is not and has never been good. The Ds are not and have never been good. They preside over genocides, support Nazis and NeoNazis, starve millions of innocents for political gain, kill children, destroy the environment for generations with chemicals and radioactive waste, mass incarcerate people for profit and political control, purge leftists from the country when necessary, spread lies about the world to create hatred and fear, and never stop spending money on the largest war machine in history as it grinds people into blood and dust.
The Rs do it too. There is no good to be found in the US political system. None. Zero. Zilch. The perfect is the not the enemy of the good here. There is no good to be an enemy of. The leftists in America fighting both parties are the good. Perfect is the enemy of the revolutionary left.
There is a difference yes, equating the two allows the people who are less justified and also currently doing things to get away with more than I think you’re realizing. I’m also pointing out that that is basically the main strategy for people who support Trump right now, pretend the bad things Democrats have done are basically exactly the same level of bad as this straight up fucking evil bullshit fascism we are seeing. I’m simply saying that equating everything and calling it all the same amount of bad is not productive and allows the worst to become more normalized than they would otherwise. I’m not justifying anything bad that any Democratic president did, just saying that we need to have gray areas here and recognize some level of tiers of evil, not just pretend that somehow Obama and Trump are the same person.
Ok, point out the material difference between war crimes conducted by obama and trump. “Decorum” or “justifications” don’t count as material differences.
trump is worse on many other topics, from outright fascism in the US to openly supporting fascists abroad to cutting USAID and such, but in terms of military action this administration is mostly just following the long-established bipartisan war crime traditions.
For support for fascism, look no further than Truman (D) presiding over Operation Paperclip which collaborated with the Vatican to save many Nazis and relocate them all over the US and South America, give them new identies, jobs, money, and protection.
I’m not saying D are all paragons, in fact fuck much of what they have done, and fuck them for being beholden to the rich, fuck them for a bunch of other stuff besides, but there was more genuine intent for good than this absolute filth fascism horseshit. Lefties are supposed to be the side of the spectrum that can actually parse differing levels of evil, but it seems more like many of us want to make perfect the enemy of good
The US is not and has never been good. The Ds are not and have never been good. They preside over genocides, support Nazis and NeoNazis, starve millions of innocents for political gain, kill children, destroy the environment for generations with chemicals and radioactive waste, mass incarcerate people for profit and political control, purge leftists from the country when necessary, spread lies about the world to create hatred and fear, and never stop spending money on the largest war machine in history as it grinds people into blood and dust.
The Rs do it too. There is no good to be found in the US political system. None. Zero. Zilch. The perfect is the not the enemy of the good here. There is no good to be an enemy of. The leftists in America fighting both parties are the good. Perfect is the enemy of the revolutionary left.