President Donald Trump announced on Christmas that the U.S. has bombed "Terrorist Scum" in Nigeria.
  • WatDabney@sopuli.xyzEnglish
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    2 months ago

    I know things were pretty fucked - I haven’t been a lifelong cynic for no reason - but still, it’s amazing how quickly snd completely the US has descended into screeching insanity.

    And all at the hands of this demented lunatic, his psychopathic enablers and his legions of angry and stupid followers.

    What a world…

    • freagle@lemmy.mlEnglish
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      2 months ago

      I’m sorry, you think this sort of behavioral escalation is distinctively Trumpian? Go look up the military actions of Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, etc. This is the the US - nonstop mass murder, constantly, unending, brutal, insane. Trump is just rubber stamping what the military puts in front him. He isn’t planning these things out.

      • Bristlecone@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        2 months ago

        bOtH SiDeS eXaCtLy ThE sAmE. Bullshit like this is all I hear from people who want to suck Trump’s dick these days

        • Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.comEnglish
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          2 months ago

          Obama literally got the Nobel peace price while bombing civilians with drones in the middle east, do you really think that what’s happening in Nigeria is significantly worse?

          • Bristlecone@lemmy.worldEnglish
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            2 months ago

            There is a difference yes, equating the two allows the people who are less justified and also currently doing things to get away with more than I think you’re realizing. I’m also pointing out that that is basically the main strategy for people who support Trump right now, pretend the bad things Democrats have done are basically exactly the same level of bad as this straight up fucking evil bullshit fascism we are seeing. I’m simply saying that equating everything and calling it all the same amount of bad is not productive and allows the worst to become more normalized than they would otherwise. I’m not justifying anything bad that any Democratic president did, just saying that we need to have gray areas here and recognize some level of tiers of evil, not just pretend that somehow Obama and Trump are the same person.

            • balsoft@lemmy.mlEnglish
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              2 months ago

              There is a difference yes

              Ok, point out the material difference between war crimes conducted by obama and trump. “Decorum” or “justifications” don’t count as material differences.

              trump is worse on many other topics, from outright fascism in the US to openly supporting fascists abroad to cutting USAID and such, but in terms of military action this administration is mostly just following the long-established bipartisan war crime traditions.

              • freagle@lemmy.mlEnglish
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                2 months ago

                For support for fascism, look no further than Truman (D) presiding over Operation Paperclip which collaborated with the Vatican to save many Nazis and relocate them all over the US and South America, give them new identies, jobs, money, and protection.

                • Bristlecone@lemmy.worldEnglish
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                  2 months ago

                  I’m not saying D are all paragons, in fact fuck much of what they have done, and fuck them for being beholden to the rich, fuck them for a bunch of other stuff besides, but there was more genuine intent for good than this absolute filth fascism horseshit. Lefties are supposed to be the side of the spectrum that can actually parse differing levels of evil, but it seems more like many of us want to make perfect the enemy of good