• Skullgrid@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    Some of the things you hear in the South about Catholics not even really being Christians… 😬

    I don’t understand why Christians , especially in the US/Americas are so hell bent on not recognising other denominations and treating them as equals in their faith, just theologically different.

    I talked to a co-worker about how I get confused about when easter is because it keeps changing the date, and how there’s some relation to fasting, lent, easter, carnaval, pancake day, shrove tuesday and mardi gras, and how it’s a christian thing but maybe she could remind me what it is. She just straight up said it wasn’t a christian thing because she didn’t do it in her denomination.

    In my head I went “bro, just because you don’t do it doesn’t mean it’s not a christian thing”.

    BTW : Carnaval and Mardi gras (fat tuesday) are all part of the binge to get rid of all the decedent shit out of your house/system before the lent fasting period which lasts from ash wednesday to easter.

    Obviously, not all denominations follow it; but when you are looking at the nationally recognized events, that’s the motive behind those named days.

    EDIT: When we used to fast for Ramadan, and the other denomination started and finished on a slightly different day, it was “yeah, the arabs do it slightly differently” not “THOSE CAMELS ARE DOING IT WRONG, THEY AREN’T EVEN MUSLIMS”

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      I don’t understand why Christians , especially in the US/Americas are so hell bent on not recognising other denominations and treating them as equals in their faith, just theologically different.

      Speaking as someone who comes from an evangelical Christian American background…

      “Many are called, but few are chosen”

      The more people who are Christians, the less special you are for believing in your variety of Christ; the less special you are, the less likely it is that you’re one of the handful of people who are saved instead of damned.

      Not expressed in such blunt terms, of course, but that’s the gist of it.

      They also have to be a small and persecuted minority because the Christian New Testament tells them that Christians will be persecuted and outnumbered. So any view of the world wherein they aren’t persecuted and outnumbered is automatically and categorically rejected.

      They say they want to spread “God’s word” to the whole world, but their entire worldview is predicated on the vast majority of the world being damned to eternal torment, but saving themselves in the process.

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        7 days ago

        no wonder these people fall for fascism, their entire faith is based on creating an in group/out group paradigm with a persecution complex.

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          Yeah. I can only really speak as to the attitudes of American evangelicals, who only became a major sect in the 19th century. They’re wild, though.

          Even up until the 1980s, they were mostly detached from American politics - that was the sinful outside world, to them. In the 1980s, television preachers and the Republican Party announcing an openly reactionary ‘Christian’ platform made them a major force in US politics, as politics has become intertwined with their ideas of salvation, which we’ve been dealing with ever fucking since.

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      7 days ago

      Yeah, there’s certainly no Islamic sets constantly trying to exterminate each other.

      Abraham never should have started this shit.