lol go outside and actually help your community. Join a mutual aid group. Do something instead of bitching about revolution on the internet. Look at my history, who says I’m a centrist?

Yall are doing exactly what the targeted social media astroturfing efforts from adversaries like Russia, Iran, and China (and probably the US gov too to get the violence going) want you to do. Think for 1 second and go outside before being so dense and reactive. Or maybe you’re 14, then in that case, actually also go outside.

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Assuming all of that is actually true, yeah that’s not good. So you’re saying they’re fudging the numbers then? Even when that ~40% figure was attained by multiple independent polls from all over the spectrum?

(Also protip: it’s easy to provoke someone into doing better research for you)

OH MY GOD you’re right, Gallup Polling is funded and owned by Trump himself!!!

…no, it’s not, go look it up for yourself

what in the what…

I’m afraid of buying a new computer now

I don’t know where you got all of that, I didn’t say any of that

Also: go outside for a bit, go volunteer at a Food Not Bombs or something. Get offline.

I’m glad you’ve listened to those podcasts and stuff, I love Carlin’s Hardcore History and also BtB (also check out It Could Happen Here). Then you should know the level of death and suffering you’re calling for, for massive amounts of people that will have nothing to do with anything. Babies, elderly, sick, many of them will die due to infrastructure and logistics issues, water and power losses due to attacks, etc. Massive emigration and refugees all over the world, but mostly to Canada and Mexico, leading to way more international issues.

If you want to die for a cause, go do something that you think will make a difference (though I don’t think that’s the best idea), but don’t call for the deaths of millions of innocent bystanders. There can be limited violence and not an all out civil war. I hope there’s no or as little violence as possible, but I think anyone following anything can see which way it’s going. However a civil war is never needed.

You have no idea what a civil war even is. Truly go read and learn about historical civil wars in modern times. I think you’re just some edgy teen who spends way too much time online. Violence occurring is one thing, but a civil war is a complete different thing.

“We’ve tried nothing and we’re all out of options!!!”

Either Russian/Chinese/American bot or agitator, or incredibly stupid.

No, a second civil war isn’t needed. What the fuck are you even saying. Or you might be like 14 years old and not know how anything works.

No, it’s third party, independent polling firms that do it. Of course I wouldn’t trust anything this regime says directly.

Check out the Election Truth Alliance. Definitely sketchy in some ways so take it with a MASSIVE grain of salt, but it could be on to something.

It definitely does continue to some extent. He’s not only the cause but also a symptom of a rotten society. However, he is a once in a generation talent at leading the cult. While Vance is “fully enlightened” (as Yarvin and Thiel have said), he can’t command that same kind of magical hold on the cult.

He has some kind of magical hold on his cult members. Of course the conservative propaganda machine (Fox, Newsmax, OANN, Twitter, TikTok) are so adeptly tuned to keep them brainwashed, but Trump himself is a once in a generation talent for leading the cult.

Really I’m so impressed at how efficient the propaganda machine keeps the base so angry and so oblivious to reality. It’s completely terrifying, but really really effective.

100% but he does have a magical hold on so many idiots. The conservative machine knows this is a once in a generation occasion so they’re trying to accomplish everything before he’s gone. Once he’s gone, Vance won’t be able to control that rabid base as well.

It’ll still be a nightmare I’m sure, but not as bad.

Actually that would be secondary. Ideally, he rots in prison for the rest of a long miserable life, where he can see the media and his own followers criticize, make fun of, and torment his little impotent insecurity. He’s never going to prison though, so…

The fact that his approval rating is FORTY FUCKING PERCENT is absolutely crazy. Makes me so sad for my fellow human.

Take that feeling like losing a good friend, and now imagine it’s your own mind you’re losing. Everything you held close and understood is upside down. It’s disorienting, because they (fascist regime) intended it to be disorienting to paralyze any organized effective response.

Can Trump just… not? When is the grim reaper coming for him? PLEASE I hope every night he dies the next day (legally and naturally).