SpaceCadet

It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it

My salary? I am a wage slave just like everybody else.

Anyway, you didn’t address the main questions:

• Do you think providing exclusive access to a house for the renter to live in is something that has no value?
• This house didn’t just happen to fall in my lap. I put 250k of my own money in over the course of 30 years (10 years to save for the down payment + 20 years of mortage payments). Money that I worked for, doing a job. It’s literally the fruit of my labor. By what ungodly reasoning should I have to give that to you or anyone else for free?

It seems you are the one here who is not making any effort to be understanding.

Every single problem with current rent could be solved by … [theoretical solutions]

Just because things could theoretically be handled differently doesn’t make landlords “thieves” as the title claims.

I’m currently a home owner and not a landlord, but if I would become a landlord, it wouldn’t be in my power to implement any of your solutions, leaving in the middle whether they have merit or not.

All I can do is try to live in the system that exists, and in that context there’s nothing unethical about charging rent to provide someone exclusive access to a property that I worked 20 years for to pay off plus 10 years to save for the down payment. Like, I’m just a wage slave myself and there’s literally over 250k of my own money in my house … why should I have to give that away for free? Seems to me that trying to take the fruits of my labor (i.e. the house that I worked for) for free is the thievery here.

land speculator

Tendentious language.

What service does the land speculator landlord provide to the tenant?

You think providing exclusive access to a house for the renter to live in is not something that has value?

Soon I will probably become a landlord, not because I want to but because it makes financial sense. My partner and I are pooling money to buy a place together so we can live together, she will sell her apartment and I will rent out my old apartment, which I bought with my own money and worked 20 years for to pay off. Are you suggesting I should just have to give the fruit of my 20 years of labor away to someone for free?

You’re fucking insane.