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Provide proof or GTFO!

Provide proof or GTFO!

You admit to not actually reading my comments, and yet you respond to them without knowing their contents, no wonder, I was right about you after all. To speak of something you know nothing about (because you literally wont read) is another example of Liberalism. You never should have posted comments to my comments in the first place, you weren’t actually engaging, just spewing liberal nonsense, I have no reason to respond to you anymore.

I added the tldr in an edit: that happened after you comment, stop lying.

you are the one that brought up that particular sack of shit, not me, and I did not accuse you of claiming that he is the source of all problems, but rather that you ignored what I’ve actually said and started acting like this conversation had even involved him until you mentioned him, so stop putting words in my mouth, address my actual text, not the text you imagine in your own mind.

“when I piss you off with liberal nonsense, that is you doing rage bait and not me doing it, dontcha know!” ~MOCKINGLY

Once again, words in my mouth and thought invented by you that are “apparently mine”, I’m not calling for adventurism, the conditions of Revolution can’t be finger snapped into existence, and I’m not asking them the be, I was making an obvious emotional exasperation of discontent and anger, and saying what I want to happen, (over thrown Capitalists) not making some call to action, it it is obvious to any not in-gauging in bad faith arguments that this is so.

Your response completely ignored my comments context, like you hadn’t even read what I’ve said, to be fair Liberals are a lot like an AI, as demonstrated by you. How was anything I’ve said even remotely like your own, Liberal, AI like comment?

You are inventing things you think are mine, musk is an individual, but I’m talking about the class, as it is the class itself that is the source of oppression not specific “Great Man Theory” “individuals”

I don’t talk to people like this in real life, I talk to liberal assholes like this when I’m too angry to take their bullshit politely. Capitalists help “themselves”, after a Capitalist revolution against feudalism, the Capitalists kill the naive revolutionists who thought what they are doing was for the peoples benefit, rather then the Capitalist parasites.

What, are you an LLM that got confused about who I’m talking about? The Capitalist Ruling Class is not some specific, singular man, but an entire class that in Capitalist countries, such as those of the Global North, the Imperial Core, The West (basically just different names for the same set of blood soaked Imperialist Usual Assholes countries like the US,UK,“Israel”(the US again),Canada,Australia,Japan,Germany,France,Italy, and it goes on but I don’t remember every country involved, basically the countries that their “news”,books,movies,word of mouth, any and all (mis)informational channels for the most part, work to craft a world view of these “core” countries being “good and trustworthy” and the ones that are actually good and trustworthy (The People’s Republic of China, The Democratic People’s Republic of Korea, Laos, Vietnam, Cuba, The USSR when it was still around, in other words the Socialist countries that have or had Communist Parties at the top of the Government to keep and protect the Working Class’s rule over Capitalists, with the Capitalists kept in line until the contradictions of classes themselves can be resolved by building Communism and thus the Capitalists stop even being a thing), as being “bad and untrustworthy”.

Anything happening to Venezuela right now is almost 100% guaranteed to be the result of the Fascist Hegemony of the US and “friends” (vassals) doing what they have always done, murdering, invading, bombing, color revolutionizing, puppet installing, torturing, IMF/World Banking, Reality Inventing, and Psy-oping, in other words, Fascists from the Global North (CIA/MI6/MOSSAD)'s doing and not some internal betrayal from the top in Venezuela like they have been Psy-oping hard for ever since they kidnapped their sovereign and and legally voted in president. If they have captured Venezuela itself, that is more crimes against humanity by the US and rage inducing, but those who want to redirect it unto being Venezuela’s fault are victim blaming sacks of shit and are doing exactly what the CIA wants them to do, and besides that, it may be that the US Regime has only kidnapped a few more officials from a sovereign nation and the photo might even be a movie set type setup in the US, or even AI for all I know.

Edit: Also “Pacifism” as always been a thing of (not so) subtle defense of the status quo, in the modern era that means it defends Fascism, to deliberately ignore the MASSIVE death and destruction that happens everyday under Capitalism for as long as it continues to exist, while making a BIG FUSS over the short lived violence of self defense to use Revolution to over through that murderous system and finally be free of it, a double standard with a pretending “care and concern” for human life that works to do just the opposite by preventing self defense. The Metaphysical and Ideological world view of Liberalism, so at odds with how reality actually works, so at odds with a scientific understanding, treats things are separate and distinct, unrelated, unconnected to one another, and so they think that by standing next to the lever of a trolley problem, doing nothing, they aren’t at fault for the deaths of 5 people as they see themselves as separate unless they act, but no such separation exists here, they murdered 4 more people than would have died had they pulled the lever, just so they could live in the delusion of non responsibility, while quite literally having the ability to respond. It would be different if you were on the other side of the world for this, you don’t have the ability to respond, but if you are next to the lever you pull it to save 5 people while one still dies or you murdered 5 people while only one lives.

TL;DR: Fascists LOVE Pacifists, and for “good” reason.

What is the context of this photo, is Delcy the one frowning with the intensity of a metaphorical or literal gun to the back of the head, has the Unazi SSnakes of Amerikkkan Isn’tRael taken advantage of the big earth quake to straight up invade, brutalize, and illegally occupy Venezuela, I hate the single entity with two bodies that is USRael so fucking much, the Ruling Fash (Western Billionaires and now a Trillionaire in particular) can’t be overthrown and publicly executed for their crimes against humanity soon enough!

Edit: I looked over this comment again, and in hind sight, I can see how the “Trillionaire in particular” part, out of the context of the rest of the comment, could be misconstrued, the “particular” was also meant for the “Billionaires” as well. I’ll try to calm down before commenting further.

Edit 2: Making an off the cuff and non serious rhetorical reference to the 8 hours old troll account being an LLM, wasn’t something I even remotely actually believed, but it seems I’ve hit the nail on the head. (soooooooo much deflection from the “probably actually is an LLM after all”)

I suggest reading “Imperialism the (current, at the time) Highest Stage of Capitalism” by Lenin, it might help give you a better idea of what Imperialism actually is, note: Russia is Capitalist right now, but not Imperialist. The only Imperialist countries in the world right now are all Capitalist ones, and they are all allied against the Global South. Any countries fighting back against this Imperialist Bloc are fighting an Anti-Imperialist fight.

The Imperialist countries in question are the usual gang, US, UK, Canada, Germany, France, Japan, Australia, ETC. basically the countries you are taught are “good countries” are actually bad countries, and the countries you are taught are “bad countries” are actually good countries (give or take, overly simplestic)

The way the UN is currently set up, the US has veto power, so unless the UN gets reformed into something new, as in no veto power, it is effectively useless.

China has been trying to change the UN into something that actually represents the interests of all the countries, but it’s not something they can do alone so it’s slow going.

I’m not sure if any here is claiming to not have any belief, belief is not the same as religion, when you look at a mountain you believe there is actually a mountain there, it’s not exactly some metaphysical, supernatural event happening to you. The difference isn’t in the existence of belief, but whether it is backed up by actual evidence or not, whether experimentation supports it or not, it has to be supported by concert reality, or it isn’t real. (or at least it isn’t reasonable to believe it is real unless new evidence comes forward that changes that and makes it reasonable) As humans aren’t omniscient infinite all knowing beings, we are force to make assumption IE “believe our eyes and ears” just to be able to function in reality, it is a perpetual imperfect information game, so to speak.

BTW you’ve been feed a lot of lies and nonsense from Capitalist controlled propaganda, the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea is an actual democracy, unlike Capitalist countries like the US, the DPRK has a Dictatorship of the Proletariat (working class) instead of the inherently anti democratic Dictatorship of the Bourgeois (capitalist class, those who own capital, which isn’t the same as money, IE “believing in capitalism” doesn’t make you a capitalist) that every Capitalist country has by the nature of it being Capitalist.

I don’t not see cults as being fundamentally different to religions, only superficially, aesthetically, in insignificant ways that doesn’t actually matter.

“Material cults” doesn’t make sense, our very existence is entirely within the framework of physics, of the mass and energy of our universe, and there aren’t components outside of this nor could there be, as it is the very connections between things that makes reality in the first place, anything unconnected is the same as not existing as far as we are concerned, and the moment you are influence by said hypothetical unconnected thing, it is longer unconnected and therefore part of reality, “Material”. As for “profit cults”, this isn’t metaphysical “greed” popping into existence from contradictory non-existence that cannot exist by definition and therefore can’t a a source for which things (like “greed”) can come, but the economical, political, and class nature of the social fabric that exists in Capitalism, and especially in it’s Monopoly IE Imperialist stage. The material conditions determines conscious, so in Capitalist society people grow into a conscious in support of exploitation, cut throat competition, zero sum “win/lose”, in other words, so called “greed”. However, the vast majority is under the boot of being exploited above and over any opportunity to exploit others, so this oppression also serves as a source of pressure for the pursuit of a different ways of doing things. It is part of the dialectical opposition between the interests of the capitalist class and the working class that makes it a matter of “who is on top, a few capitalist parasites, or the vast majority who is doing all the work anyways” until the existence of class itself can finally fade away in the process of building Communism. P.S. Also the falling apart company profit stuff is because Capitalism is inherently unsustainable, and would happen regardless.

I admit it may be sloppy, it is something my mind came up with long before I ever started reading Marxist Leninist Theory. I am almost certainly also biased on the topic as a result of childhood trauma that screwed me over for life. (I’ve made massive progress on overcoming it with help from my Therapist, but it isn’t fully resolved.)

The problem with that is that it is a false equivalence, Dialectical and Historical Materialism is a part of the Socialist Scientific method, where as Liberalism is not Scientific or based on it, using those who are incorrectly treating Marxism Leninism as dogma to argue that it is a religion is the same as pointing to Scientologists pseudo-science cult as proving that Science is a religion. The biggest difference between a religion and a science, such as Marxism Leninism, is one is at odds with reality and the other explains it and has been proven through experimentation (putting Theory into Practice and refining the Theory based on the results in MLs case).

In my view, one isn’t really an atheist if they are a liberal (or conservative, but I repeat myself) as it is effectively another religion, with Capital as it’s “god”, it is kind of like those liberals that call themselves “socialist” and support controlled opposition, compatible “leftist”, and friend of epstein, bernie sanders.

Edit: for some reason I can’t see the rest of the comments while logged in, so I’ll put it here: I think a more accurate and inclusive phrase would be “freedom of religion or atheism”, as it would be shitty if one had to declare some religion or another without just “none” as an option.

Edit: Edit: From the rest of this thread I think people may be confused, you cannot just “ban” the “opiate of the masses”, as long as people are in pain they will seek a painkiller, and denying it to them just turns those very people against you, if the world becomes your enemy you have little chance. To reach synthesis you must collapse the contradiction by combining elements of thesis and anti-thesis in such a manor that it favors the non toxic elements of both and becomes stable.

I’m not so sure about the reasoning here, Fascists also drink water, breath air, and eat food (at least until they become “the only good Fascist”)

I struggle to pay attention to long videos (it’s an hour long) unless I’m already interested in it already, so I’ll take your word for it (pretty sure I have ADHD or something), on the other hand I’d love an article or a PDF file I can just read, the interaction of having to actively pay attention to read helps focus my attention, and so I can work through hundreds of pages of a PDF after maybe a good week, but an hour long video is a bit much.

As far as (so called) “isreal” goes, there existence is highly dependent on US support, more concrete action to disrupt anything going to them from the US, if successfully done, may be more effective at stopping their crimes against humanity. A successful Revolution would end the support completely, but perhaps there are …illegal to say… sort of things that an organized effort could pull off in the mean time (though such things can’t be safely discussed in a public forum.) (hypothetically) (in minecraft)

I think you misread my intentions, I would never intentionally defend Zionists (Fascists), my focus was on whether or not bullying was an effective tactic to change a persons thinking, but I also don’t believe someone that has gone full Fascist can be reached anyways. The other point having to do with it being more important to work together with Anti Fascists to put an end to the conditions that support Fascism even being a thing, and hence “reaching those that can be reached” (to organize with for fighting Fascism). And finally I want to mention that it isn’t enough to point out Fascists being Fascists, “naming and shaming” doesn’t make the problem go away, for that Capitalism needs to be over thrown (and it can be done again)

What ever method that works as long as it actually works, though that isn’t necessarily a given, confirmation should be sought on actual effectiveness of a method, and so far to me it seems, bullying may backfire and dig in a position as one who feels they are under attack will get defensive is response. More importantly the focus should be on reaching those who are most likely to be reached, like picking the low hanging fruit before you start trying to climb the tree. As the purpose is to build to a successful Revolution and thus change the world for the better, it isn’t as important that every person is reached and on board, only enough to get the ball rolling, and that means many people need to be reached, and the most reactionary are both fewer and harder to reach compared to the overall masses who are increasingly sick of being oppressed.