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The white woman is being hypocritical. She expects the guy to understand her particular case. She cannot use the same logic to understand the black women’s case.

Yeah! I saw another commenter say that. That’s awesome. Had no clue. Thanks!

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This conversation has become repetitive, and it feels like my arguments are being mischaracterized as arguments I am not making. I reject the notion that people act solely based on material conditions, and I’ve articulated my view in full. Your insistence on framing my position as cultural chauvinism or invoking the noble savage trope is not only unproductive but also dismissive of the complexity I’m trying to convey.

You’ve called out a strawman and I am not interested in continuing this discussion.

The frame I’m rejecting is the idea that, given the same material conditions, all people and cultures throughout history would react in the same way. This view oversimplifies and dehistoricizes the diverse experiences of Native Americans, as I mentioned in my first comment.

Culture and material conditions are interconnected; they shape and influence one another. If culture only emerged from material conditions, then people would merely be reacting mechanistically to their environments, lacking the richness of creativity, belief systems, and individual agency that shape societies in diverse and meaningful ways. Recognizing this complexity does not mean I’m relying on the noble savage trope.

The way you dismissed my response was uncalled for. I’ve take time and care to craft my response to be honest and considerate. I’m not interested in a discussion that is otherwise.

I don’t accept your framing. Its defeatist and rooted in modern projects.

That’s a huge statement. Do you have equally damning evidence to support that statement?

I have yet to encounter this explicitly where someone would say that Native Americans were “purely victims”. At best, they aggregate and dehistoricize all tribes into a conglomerate term, “Native Americans”. I’m sure there are some who cling to the “noble savage” trope, but I don’t see it these days.

What ever intertribal conflicts happened, they never reached the level of disease spread, displacement, and systematic violence aimed at cultural erasure. The unprecedented scale of violence unleashed by colonialism, which led to devastating consequences for these communities is important and to flatten the intertribal violence along side the colonial conquest is narrow minded. They may have sucked, but some far more than others.