In a late-night post to his Truth Social platform, U.S. President Donald Trump published an altered image of the American flag superimposed over a map that includes Canada, Greenland and Venezuela.
Whatever I do is enought to keep my country from threatening to use military force against my most loyal allies.
Are you sure? Or is it just that terrible people haven’t spent enough time manipulating enough people to get the worst possible people elected?
Do you have an actual suggestion here?
I’d love to hear it. Seriously. I’m quite a long way from anywhere that ICE is active, and have no way of getting near or in any way impacting Trump. Economics don’t even seem to matter, as its currently spiraling, so I can’t even see a general strike having too much impact at the moment. Entire industries have already been functionally devastated by the shithead and the shithead sycophants, and nothing has changed.
What’s your suggestion?
If its a mass armed revolution, that’s just sending anyone against all this shit to die - there is a drastic difference between what the military and even brownshirts ICE compared to what regular people have access to. That would just be a slaughter.
What do you suggest? As you said, you’re doing something that you believe is somehow preventing this same problem, where billionaires have leveraged social media to manipulate and divide for the outcome they wanted.
So what is this wonderous solution? I’m all ears. I mean it. Because the “something’s” I’ve been doing (protest, working to establish local community networks for resource sharing, getting people aware of and off billionaire owned soc media, writing senators and members of congress regularly, contacting local politicians, etc - I’m definitely on a federal list by now) are apparently not as good as your suggestion of whatever you’ve been doing.
You do all that? Than you, and you personally only may have my sencire apologies and the world of admiration. And I’m sorry that it is happening to you.
But I’m done with the benefits of the doubt. I’ll judge you colectively by the outcome. And untill I see the systemic change your country is not trustworthy in my eye.
If trump died today, it wouldn’t be a sing of relife for me. It would be prove that you collectively broken your system so much that only thing that can stop tyrant in charge is time.
This is not the outcome of today. It is not happening since yesterday. You ask hypotheticals about my country. Until there is one person who is not using all their purchasing power, all admistrative presure and as much civil disobedience they have in their disposal, your country is not taking their responsibility and I’ll judge you collectively until proven otherwise. Feel free to do the same with me and my country.
Not everyone can do everything. But litteraly everyone can cancel their fucking Disney+ subscription. And all trump supporters are doing very well, becouse - collectively - a bare minimum of invonviniece seams to be harder to overcome than a shame of betrayal.
Posting “what else is new” memes is not resistence. Its rolling over.
I do. One of our friends is part of a group that makes sure a maga shithead representative never gets to enjoy a night out. Another friend is going door to door to talk to people and make sure they know what’s going on - and I can say several maga flags have come down as a result. Another friend was able to take an opportunity to get out of the country (she’s trans) and is trying to get involved with the support network there for others in a similar situation. My neighbors are Indian, and are helping out others who are heading back by helping store their belongings as they try and get to safety before ICE does make it nearby.
Than you, and you personally only may have my sencire apologies and the world of admiration. And I’m sorry that it is happening to you.
Here’s the thing - as I mentioned above, a lot of people are doing things. I can’t travel far without pain, so getting to DC or something to protest is a non-starter. I can’t even make it to the larger protests in my state because they are mostly pretty far, longer than I can drive. We have two small kids, so either me or my wife have to stay home.
Others dont even have that option. They may only talk to friends and family about the issues going on to try and get them to see the truth. Or maybe they make phone calls to representatives. Or they send emails. Or maybe they are burnt out completely and need a break to stay functional.
The point is - how much someone is doing doesn’t matter. You have no idea how much or how little anyone is doing. Someone who works from home and makes good enough money to spend time on other activities (like me) isnt doing more, IMO, than the person who works three jobs just to get by and shows up to one protest a month that happens to coincide with their day off.
I’ll judge you colectively by the outcome.
And so you’ve already judged me and that person spending their one day not working as being part of the problem.
Do you see why I take issue with such a divisive comment?
Nothing I have done has stopped Trump. And I’ll be candid, I really dont believe anything I do can stop Trump. I don’t have that kind of money, access, power, whatever to create that kind of change. That, by itself, is a depressing and demoralizing reality.
If trump died today, it wouldn’t be a sing of relife for me. It would be prove that you collectively broken your system so much that only thing that can stop tyrant in charge is time.
When enough people are in a position of power to prevent what should not be happening in the first place - absolutely. There are mechanisms to stop this, built on the idea that the people in office would represent their constituents, that they would not take such blatant (and frankly criminal) advantage of their positions to be so heinous and downright evil. This isnt the system being broken by new changes so much as it just not being good enough from the start to prevent it.
Posting “what else is new” memes is not resistence. Its rolling over.
Its also a way for someone to let off a little bit of steam, given the downright depressing reality bearing down on Americans who did not want this.
I guess the short version of all that is - its about as helpful as your comment painting every American as being supportive of this just because its continuing.
Most of us hate this. Most of us have absolutely no way to stop it, either.
I’m annoying reps who are well aware they are the lesser of two evils, so they just need to avoid being primaried.
I’m making others aware of and getting contributions to things like community pantries.
I’m getting communication options going that dont rely on cell phones (thanks Verizon! Your shitty cellular network and long outage really helped me push this idea along)
I’m basically a pest who talks to other pests in their eyes.
None of these things will stop Trump (not that he’s the only problem here, just one of the most significant right now). More people with the time and energy to do the same I can’t see having any more of an impact.
The people who could deal with this are, generically speaking, billionaires and conservative representatives, a tiny minority of the population, neither of which are interested in having a course change.
So what’s the suggestion here that will solve the problem? I’ll gladly share it and work on it.
What did you try so far? Who did you call? What protest did you attend? What protest did you organized? What subscriptions did you stoped? What did you wrote in the “why” box? What product and services did you stopped buying? To what did you volontired to? What was the name of that NGO? Who did you help? How did you organized?
Please don’t tell me that most of you tried everything they can when 55 million people pay for Disney+. If it droped by half mickey mouse death squad would persobaly remove donald
You legalized corruption and called it “lobbing”. At the very least you could force them to “lobby” for you.
So we’re just going to ignore what ive already listed, and you’ve decided to tack on a bunch of other random things which - lol - mostly have nothing to do with trump and I didnt have in the first place.
I can see pointing out the issues with your comment will get nowhere, so I’m going to go ahead and move on now. Enjoy your day.
Kę? I honestly thought you were a different person. Why else would you ask again what you personally could do more, if we allteady established that you do a lot, and - in your hart of harts - belive that you do all you can?
Individual you we covered, why did you brought it you again? You said that that most of [collective] you all thay can to change it. I said it can’t be true becouse if it was it would allteady be changed. So why did you start dogging up about yourself again?
Honestlu, it took an opposite effect becouse your casual dismissal of things as not helpful and random revel that you don’t realy look for ways to do more. And whatever you do its not enought, so it seems that one would be desperate to do something. Especially if the price is inconvenience.
What exactly is not ralated? Putting the economical presure on actors the have more leverage than you? Making sure that people who could be targeted for being opostion have the network of support? Procetctong most vonurable? Making your system stronger buttom-up so its harder to abuse? You seriously don’t see link between civil responsibility and unnacontable leader? Is everything you know about democracy is how to make a movie about it? It make me retroactively question my appologies.
You are right, its time to move on. Watch one of your 6 subscriton services. People who are being mobilized against your army will find solace that you truly belive that most of you did all they can to stop it. You deserved it. There is nothing else you can do.
Are you sure? Or is it just that terrible people haven’t spent enough time manipulating enough people to get the worst possible people elected?
Do you have an actual suggestion here?
I’d love to hear it. Seriously. I’m quite a long way from anywhere that ICE is active, and have no way of getting near or in any way impacting Trump. Economics don’t even seem to matter, as its currently spiraling, so I can’t even see a general strike having too much impact at the moment. Entire industries have already been functionally devastated by the shithead and the shithead sycophants, and nothing has changed.
What’s your suggestion?
If its a mass armed revolution, that’s just sending anyone against all this shit to die - there is a drastic difference between what the military and even
brownshirtsICE compared to what regular people have access to. That would just be a slaughter.What do you suggest? As you said, you’re doing something that you believe is somehow preventing this same problem, where billionaires have leveraged social media to manipulate and divide for the outcome they wanted.
So what is this wonderous solution? I’m all ears. I mean it. Because the “something’s” I’ve been doing (protest, working to establish local community networks for resource sharing, getting people aware of and off billionaire owned soc media, writing senators and members of congress regularly, contacting local politicians, etc - I’m definitely on a federal list by now) are apparently not as good as your suggestion of whatever you’ve been doing.
So please. Share your solution to fix things.
You do all that? Than you, and you personally only may have my sencire apologies and the world of admiration. And I’m sorry that it is happening to you.
But I’m done with the benefits of the doubt. I’ll judge you colectively by the outcome. And untill I see the systemic change your country is not trustworthy in my eye.
If trump died today, it wouldn’t be a sing of relife for me. It would be prove that you collectively broken your system so much that only thing that can stop tyrant in charge is time.
This is not the outcome of today. It is not happening since yesterday. You ask hypotheticals about my country. Until there is one person who is not using all their purchasing power, all admistrative presure and as much civil disobedience they have in their disposal, your country is not taking their responsibility and I’ll judge you collectively until proven otherwise. Feel free to do the same with me and my country.
Not everyone can do everything. But litteraly everyone can cancel their fucking Disney+ subscription. And all trump supporters are doing very well, becouse - collectively - a bare minimum of invonviniece seams to be harder to overcome than a shame of betrayal.
Posting “what else is new” memes is not resistence. Its rolling over.
I do. One of our friends is part of a group that makes sure a maga shithead representative never gets to enjoy a night out. Another friend is going door to door to talk to people and make sure they know what’s going on - and I can say several maga flags have come down as a result. Another friend was able to take an opportunity to get out of the country (she’s trans) and is trying to get involved with the support network there for others in a similar situation. My neighbors are Indian, and are helping out others who are heading back by helping store their belongings as they try and get to safety before ICE does make it nearby.
Here’s the thing - as I mentioned above, a lot of people are doing things. I can’t travel far without pain, so getting to DC or something to protest is a non-starter. I can’t even make it to the larger protests in my state because they are mostly pretty far, longer than I can drive. We have two small kids, so either me or my wife have to stay home.
Others dont even have that option. They may only talk to friends and family about the issues going on to try and get them to see the truth. Or maybe they make phone calls to representatives. Or they send emails. Or maybe they are burnt out completely and need a break to stay functional.
The point is - how much someone is doing doesn’t matter. You have no idea how much or how little anyone is doing. Someone who works from home and makes good enough money to spend time on other activities (like me) isnt doing more, IMO, than the person who works three jobs just to get by and shows up to one protest a month that happens to coincide with their day off.
And so you’ve already judged me and that person spending their one day not working as being part of the problem.
Do you see why I take issue with such a divisive comment?
Nothing I have done has stopped Trump. And I’ll be candid, I really dont believe anything I do can stop Trump. I don’t have that kind of money, access, power, whatever to create that kind of change. That, by itself, is a depressing and demoralizing reality.
When enough people are in a position of power to prevent what should not be happening in the first place - absolutely. There are mechanisms to stop this, built on the idea that the people in office would represent their constituents, that they would not take such blatant (and frankly criminal) advantage of their positions to be so heinous and downright evil. This isnt the system being broken by new changes so much as it just not being good enough from the start to prevent it.
Its also a way for someone to let off a little bit of steam, given the downright depressing reality bearing down on Americans who did not want this.
I guess the short version of all that is - its about as helpful as your comment painting every American as being supportive of this just because its continuing.
Most of us hate this. Most of us have absolutely no way to stop it, either.
I’m sorry, but if most of you did would they could to stop it, it would be stopped.
How?
I’m annoying reps who are well aware they are the lesser of two evils, so they just need to avoid being primaried.
I’m making others aware of and getting contributions to things like community pantries.
I’m getting communication options going that dont rely on cell phones (thanks Verizon! Your shitty cellular network and long outage really helped me push this idea along)
I’m basically a pest who talks to other pests in their eyes.
None of these things will stop Trump (not that he’s the only problem here, just one of the most significant right now). More people with the time and energy to do the same I can’t see having any more of an impact.
The people who could deal with this are, generically speaking, billionaires and conservative representatives, a tiny minority of the population, neither of which are interested in having a course change.
So what’s the suggestion here that will solve the problem? I’ll gladly share it and work on it.
Did you try?
What did you try so far? Who did you call? What protest did you attend? What protest did you organized? What subscriptions did you stoped? What did you wrote in the “why” box? What product and services did you stopped buying? To what did you volontired to? What was the name of that NGO? Who did you help? How did you organized?
Please don’t tell me that most of you tried everything they can when 55 million people pay for Disney+. If it droped by half mickey mouse death squad would persobaly remove donald
You legalized corruption and called it “lobbing”. At the very least you could force them to “lobby” for you.
So we’re just going to ignore what ive already listed, and you’ve decided to tack on a bunch of other random things which - lol - mostly have nothing to do with trump and I didnt have in the first place.
I can see pointing out the issues with your comment will get nowhere, so I’m going to go ahead and move on now. Enjoy your day.
Kę? I honestly thought you were a different person. Why else would you ask again what you personally could do more, if we allteady established that you do a lot, and - in your hart of harts - belive that you do all you can?
Individual you we covered, why did you brought it you again? You said that that most of [collective] you all thay can to change it. I said it can’t be true becouse if it was it would allteady be changed. So why did you start dogging up about yourself again?
Honestlu, it took an opposite effect becouse your casual dismissal of things as not helpful and random revel that you don’t realy look for ways to do more. And whatever you do its not enought, so it seems that one would be desperate to do something. Especially if the price is inconvenience.
What exactly is not ralated? Putting the economical presure on actors the have more leverage than you? Making sure that people who could be targeted for being opostion have the network of support? Procetctong most vonurable? Making your system stronger buttom-up so its harder to abuse? You seriously don’t see link between civil responsibility and unnacontable leader? Is everything you know about democracy is how to make a movie about it? It make me retroactively question my appologies.
You are right, its time to move on. Watch one of your 6 subscriton services. People who are being mobilized against your army will find solace that you truly belive that most of you did all they can to stop it. You deserved it. There is nothing else you can do.
The ones I said I don’t even have in the first place?
Cool. Thanks for reading the very short comment so thoroughly.
Enjoy your day.