cross-posted from: https://lemmus.org/post/20182604

The UK, Sweden, France, Germany and The Netherlands are confident that Alexei Navalny was poisoned with a lethal toxin.

This is the conclusion of our Governments based on analyses of samples from Alexei Navalny. These analyses have conclusively confirmed the presence of epibatidine.

Epibatidine is a toxin found in poison dart frogs in South America. It is not found naturally in Russia.

  • Beep@lemmus.orgOP
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    5 different countries(UK, Sweden, France, Germany and The Netherlands) has concluded based on their analysis that he has been poisoned.

    You are calling their conclusion a “conspiracy theory that has zero factual basis to it” based on your mood or facts?

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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      Making claims without providing any tangible evidence is literally what propaganda is. These same countries have been making fantastical claims about the state of the war in Ukraine for nearly four years now as well. One has to be very credulous to take anything these regimes say about their main adversary seriously.

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      He is calling it weirdly timed western propaganda which contradicts previous western propaganda (which it is). Also just because it’s 5 different counties doesn’t make it more believable if they’re all in NATO

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        How so?

        Both of you didn’t provide any reputable evidence.

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          What do you mean?

          @yogthos@lemmy.ml posted a link from Kyivpost saying it’s a blood knot (a western vassal) and you posted it’s poisoning. The release timing of the findings now so long when it’s out of the news cycle is weird (apart from the propaganda value of “russia bad”)

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            Ukraine said that it thinks it’s blood clot, other countries say it’s poison.

            Where is the propaganda exactly here?

            I feel like you are trying to make up imaginary dots to connect to prove your already made conclusion.

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              Where is the propaganda exactly here?

              Your question implies that you think there is something as “not propaganda”, which is very naive. Also propaganda works better with things that are not said that with things that are said.

              In this case the propaganda is the pearl clutching about the poisoning of a fascist and dismissing the highlighting that Navalny was a facist as Russian propaganda.

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                I guess you meant to say that maybe the Propaganda is the friends we made along the way?

                In all seriousness, you either have a proof or you don’t.

                It’s a waste of time to keep asking you for facts, because you keep providing your feelings and conspiracy theories instead.

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                  Proof for What? What conspiracy theory am I providing? That the west is doing propaganda? Read some theory not Harry Potter kid

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                    Says the person who keep pretending that his feelings are established facts

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      5 different countries have concluded that Saddam Hussein has weapons of mass destruction. You are saying they’re lying?

      Yes, I too am saying that the lying countries that lie to start and continue wars are probably lying to you