• Echo Dot@feddit.uk
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    I suppose it’s because there hasn’t been any stories about the police abusing their powers and following their exes around. I’m sure it happens there’s just not been any stories about it.

    Other one thing I will say is this, I used to actually watch the road traffic cameras so we could report in accidents and breakdowns on the motorways and trust me no one can track you using those cameras you could barely tell what colour of the car was, make and model you had no chance. You wouldn’t have thought they would still make cameras with the resolution of 720i, but apparently they still do.

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    The UK has been saturated with CCTV cameras of all sorts for decades so the frog has been thoroughly boiled on public opinion on them.

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    The US is mad about them because its police force is uneducated, untrained and murderous. Whatever flaws the UK’s police have, it’s not nearly as bad, and having surveillance (in public) is not likely to result in you or your dog getting shot for no reason.

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      ding ding ding

      Humans generally don’t mind guardrails and the like when they trust the people enacting them.

      We’ve never really trusted the PO-lice in the USA, some have enthusiastically but many have never

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        The state song of Tennessee has a line about murdering two federal agents searching for a moonshine operation. Americans only like cops if they are brutalizing minorities or striking workers.

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    Policing by consent is what is different, in America police are often a private force for those in power

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    Honestly, they probably have better security. And there is probably less transparency about about usage.

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    The UK has surrendered their rights to a nanny state. They can’t even own pointy knives.

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      Oh no I’m not allowed a murderous weapon, what a restrictive country I live in I don’t know how I cope. The day I wasn’t able to randomly kill someone who cut me off in traffic. What an utterly appalling infringement on my freedoms.

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    Americans idolise Europe and wouldn’t stop bitching about how great it is here and how easy we have it. But then they’ll go ‘No kings!, no government ID!, no mass surveillance!, no face scanning and fingerprinting everyone without them committing a crime!..’, like, do you lot want Europe style ‘democracy’ or not?

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      I think flock is a pretty egregious example though. The corrupt us police were using it for personal reasons most of which were nefarious.

      I’m not sure if Americans can really articulate this because they’re kind of used to their police being the enemy, but I think the larger issue isn’t so much the cameras themselves, it’s mass surveillance by an organization that is barely one step above criminals.

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      I’m an American living in Germany, and I’ve got warring feelings about how a country should be. That’s pretty normal for immigrants (I also teach integration classes and this comes up a lot). I prefer some things from the USA, and some things from Germany. On the whole, I prefer Germany, and while I’m very grateful and glad to be able to live here, it’s not a completely frictionless cultural transition.

      For example, I really like that unions and guilds are respected and protected here and I love that people care for the environment more here, but I also enjoy changing my own oil (I don’t dump or spill it outside, nor do I dispose of it inappropriately- to answer the first question Germans always have). These are in opposition to each other, because even if I’m meticulous, a general population isn’t, and if most people changed their own oil, there would certainly be more small scale contamination events, and it would likely have an impact on the mechanics industry. If I have to choose between the environment and unions or changing my own oil, I choose the former, 100%. But it’s always going to chafe a little to pay someone else >50€ for an oil change.

      At first, I didn’t understand the relationship between the environment, unions, and oil changes, so I was exclusively annoyed by the restriction. Once I learned, it became a lot easier to deal with.

      It’s not really sensible to get annoyed at someone for not understanding a culture they don’t know. Obviously, it can get annoying when people completely ignore cultural unwritten rules, but just understanding half of the problem is pretty common for humans in general when talking about other cultures.

      • Echo Dot@feddit.uk
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        Well there’s also the safety issue that the US actually does have, that a lot of people don’t perform basic maintenance on their vehicles and drive around in death traps, with bald tyres, rusted axles, and wheels that are the barely attached to the vehicle. It would be fine if they only killed themselves, but they often take a few other people along with them.