• reksas@sopuli.xyz
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    12 days ago

    There is probably some positive way to break the system too and it would likely work much better than what i originally thought. I think the clue is in what the oppressors have spent decades in brainwashing the people to hate.

    Either that or complete chaos and burning it all to the ground

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      11 days ago

      The problem is that once that positive way starts to gain momentum, those in power will retaliate with violence to suppress and break the movement.

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      11 days ago

      The positive way is organizing a political movement on the spot, since every actually progressive organization was labeled “communist” (synonyms of terrorist), discredited, stunted via infiltration and propaganda implying impotency, and/or had it’s leaders assassinated

      So that’s what we’re doing. It’s going better than could be reasonably expected (we find out how well in a couple weeks), but it’s going to take time. This election we’re going from having zero political voice to taking several dozen key seats, and over the next two years we need to leverage these these seats to build public trust that change is possible and overcome a lifetime of propoganda

      Burning it all down isn’t really an option. Even if the majority of the population was willing to go that route (and we have not suffered nearly enough for that).

      If we achieved it, tens of millions would starve and the federal government would survive. There’s multiple underground shelter systems where a predefined list of “key leadership” can be stashed for like 2 years

      We have a “just in time” economy - both food production and food distribution (at each individual level and category of foodstuffs) operate like cartels, and if these megacorps fall cities will begin to starve after about 2 weeks. Our supply lines can’t handle a loud sneeze without snapping, things like COVID or the avian flu caused disruptions that lasted months and have had ongoing effects

      In other countries, you could raid the storehouses and organize with the farmers. In ours, the farmers get the chickens from a megacorp, they get the feed from the megacorp, they sell the chickens and eggs to the megacorp. The seeds are bought from a megacorp, the depleted soil requires petro-fertilizers, the “smart” tractors and harvesters can only be maintained with megacorp technicians. Two companies supply almost every institution and restaurant with food, three companies own nearly every grocery chain, two (regional) companies control all the chicken, three control most of the leafy greens, etc

      We have independent farmers and farm to table restaurants, but the overwhelming majority passes through monopsonies

      Meanwhile, the military is the backup plan for everything. They have contingencies for every apocalypse scenario, including a general uprising or mass starvation, and they all end with “and this is how we restore ‘order’ and reinstall the government”

      Every organization exists to perpetuate itself, but the US Federal government is the most resilient organization ever

      TLDR: The only real options are a political takeover against the united will of both political parties, or a military coup. We’re trying for the first option

        • theneverfox@pawb.social
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          11 days ago

          Thank you. People love to shit on Americans (especially on Lemmy), but the truth is my people are suffering, and things will get much worse before they get better. We’ve got an impossible flight on our hands, and even if we win, we’re still living in a collapsing empire

          But things can still be better, especially locally…I know it’s true, and if I say it enough I hope I’ll start to believe it again

          So I really appreciate the empathy