The lesson that France is currently teaching is one that applies far beyond its borders, and spectacle readers in Britain, in Ireland, in the United States, in every country where the same austerity and the same contempt and the same degradation of public services is being imposed by governments with no mandate and no answers, should be paying close attention. The French are demonstrating something that is easy to forget when you are watching from inside a system that has been designed to make organised resistance feel futile: the state does not respond to reason alone. It does not move because of petitions or polite letters or even electoral pressure, because all of those things can be absorbed, delayed, managed, and eventually forgotten. It responds to disruption, to the credible assertion that the country cannot function normally while its people are being ignored, and the French people have been making that assertion, with remarkable consistency and remarkable discipline, for weeks.

They let the ambulances through. They block the roads and then they open them for the fire trucks and then they close them again, because they understand that their anger is not directed at the people the state is also failing to protect. They have chosen their targets carefully, and their message is clear. The system that is telling you there is no money for schools spent billions on war. The government that is cutting your pension sent its children to private school. The state that fires tear gas at 14-year-olds is the same state that has an answer for every question except the ones that matter.

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      Damn, I only have the verifiable trend of France running a deficit since 1974, being charged some of the highest interest rates for borrowing amongst the G7 nations, and their government repeatedly collapsing over the last few years with two prime ministers being voted out in the same year leaving them completely unable to do anything

      You have the vague feeling that The Jews are behind this. I mean if you really wanted to paint this as part of the greater Reichwing Billionaires attempting to run the G7 nations like kings you might have been able to even though that’s got nothing to do with France failing to get its shit together since the 70’s, but no you had to immediately make this Isreal pulling the strings.

      You’re right, your position is clearly more intellectually honest

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        Whoa hold up. Where did “The Jews” come from here? Cuz the other guy said Israelis, specifically conservative Israelis, which would suggest Netanyahu and his ilk. Then you said the Jews. Those are two vastly different things. I don’t know what you meant by that. Are you just trying to be intellectually dishonest about his argument? Or is this just really blatant racism from you? Or are you just a Zionist who thinks that Israel represents all Jews? All three seem super scummy.

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          Hiding behind the objectively true statement that “antizionism is not antisemitism” to spread conspiracies about Isreal as a state that could have been lifted directly from “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion” is cowardly antisemitism at worst and intellectually dishonest at best.

          Isreal is a genocidal rogue state run by a fascist extremist government <- true statement, not antisemitic

          France is experiencing riots because Isreal is behind it <- antisemitism masquerading as antizionism

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        I don’t think “the jews” are behind you fucking asshole. I said the government of Israel, which is currently a cabal of literal fascist criminals.

        And since those criminals are the people who (a) start this shit all over the world, (b) regularly use violence to interfere in every other country’s internal politics, and (c ) very conveniently found their perfect Arab Boogeyman in this moment, right when they need one to rig another Israeli election? Yeah, it’s them.

        Take your “oh no you’re blaming all jews” bullshit and blow it right out your ass.

        AND fucking LOL at you claiming no, this is just the culmination of economics going back to 1974…that just happens to culiminate in the perfect outcome for the fascists, right when they need it. Total fucking coincidence.

        Just LOL @ you being a cuck for fascists. Sit back in your chair and stroke it, I guess.

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          Oh please, “Isreal is behind all the bad things in the west” is not an honest belief in Isreal being a rogue state. It’s “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion” with extra steps

          I fucking hate Bibi and think he’ll be a lucky man if the worst thing that ever happens to him is he gets dragged before The Hague to answer for his crimes.

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            Good for you, I hate colonial ethnostates created as a way for imperial colonizer countries to get a foothold in the middle east, lol.

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              Yes, yes, we get it, you’re from .ml

              You’re more ideologically pure, we’re all in awe

              Not relevant to the discussion at hand, since I’m not defending Isreal, I’m calling out blatant antisemitism trying to pretend to be antizionism

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                  And please tell me what is a state if not the people running it, and those enabling them?

                  I believe all states should be abolished so you’re not likely to find this an effective avenue of attack

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              What part of implying i think unspeakable things should happen to Bibi for the crimes against humanity he’s committing along with his government reads as a defense of the Israeli state to you?

              Because I promise you I’d get a visit from some alphabet soup agents if I posted what I think should be done with him and his enablers

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                  What part of “I believe all states should be abolished” on the other thread did you not understand?

                  Sanctions are a laughable tool to try and use to kill an empire as large as the US, it’s a quaint suggestion

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        “The Jews” aren’t related to the eviction of the first ministers. They were choosen by the president despite not having a majority at parlement, and they have choosen to force their view despite being in minority. It is a choice of the president to make parlement weak and to deny democratie. The president not being jew, it is not the jews.